I should point out that when it comes to fic, I'm Wincest all the way. I've never been able to make myself particularly interested in Dean/Cas as a fic pairing, whereas I love a good Sam/Dean story. I call myself a Destiel shipper because I see it in the show. I see all these other comments to this post saying that Destiel shippers see what they want to see, that the show has been playing and we've been taking it seriously, etc. I don't believe that. I think they set it up in the text so that Destiel was at least a realistic possibility, should they choose to go that way. The subtext in S8 is too structured for it to make sense to me any other way.
Sure, they might decide to go another route. I'm not saying Destiel is for sure going to happen. But this idea that fans are exaggerating and making stuff up when it comes to the idea that Dean might be bi or that Dean/Cas is at least a possibility in the text? That I disagree with.
So while I think that there are overinvested fans--people crying all day about this twitter mess and 9.03, for example--I also get why people get so defensive. I find myself getting defensive, which is kind of dumb. I mean, it'll happen or it won't, so what's the point?
But the reason so many people have such a problem believing Jensen's comments or this guy Chad Kennedy's comments is because evidence of the possibility (I keep stressing this) of Destiel in the text itself is compelling, and that trumps all extra-textual declaration. It's not because people are stupid or delusional or don't know how TV publicity works. (The Sterek fandom are beginning to call out the Teen Wolf powers that be on this very issue.) It's because it's a valid (again, a valid, not the valid) interpretation of the text and a lot of fans don't understand why that stuff is there if tptb don't intend to do something with it.
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I should point out that when it comes to fic, I'm Wincest all the way. I've never been able to make myself particularly interested in Dean/Cas as a fic pairing, whereas I love a good Sam/Dean story. I call myself a Destiel shipper because I see it in the show. I see all these other comments to this post saying that Destiel shippers see what they want to see, that the show has been playing and we've been taking it seriously, etc. I don't believe that. I think they set it up in the text so that Destiel was at least a realistic possibility, should they choose to go that way. The subtext in S8 is too structured for it to make sense to me any other way.
Sure, they might decide to go another route. I'm not saying Destiel is for sure going to happen. But this idea that fans are exaggerating and making stuff up when it comes to the idea that Dean might be bi or that Dean/Cas is at least a possibility in the text? That I disagree with.
So while I think that there are overinvested fans--people crying all day about this twitter mess and 9.03, for example--I also get why people get so defensive. I find myself getting defensive, which is kind of dumb. I mean, it'll happen or it won't, so what's the point?
But the reason so many people have such a problem believing Jensen's comments or this guy Chad Kennedy's comments is because evidence of the possibility (I keep stressing this) of Destiel in the text itself is compelling, and that trumps all extra-textual declaration. It's not because people are stupid or delusional or don't know how TV publicity works. (The Sterek fandom are beginning to call out the Teen Wolf powers that be on this very issue.) It's because it's a valid (again, a valid, not the valid) interpretation of the text and a lot of fans don't understand why that stuff is there if tptb don't intend to do something with it.