An idea struck me...
Jun. 10th, 2012 11:10 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ash48I was thinking about SPN (as I do), mulling over the "maybe spoiler" that was quoted from Bob Singer and had a thought that might actually work at the beginning of S8. Cliched of course but, hey...
I haven't read any speculation posts yet so apologies if this has already been tossed about. This is just me thinking out loud. Not exactly a "hope" for S8 but rather a possibility.
So, Bob Singer says " The brothers are reunited on screen quickly, but much time will have passed." (source)
I know there are some who want the boys to spend some time apart before they are reunited and others who want them together again straight away. If we can take this quote as true then looks like we are getting them back together straight away.
I admit to be one that was disappointed about this because some time apart would be interesting (at least a couple of eps maybe). HOWEVER... I'm thinking now that we could have both - them being immediately together...and yet not.
One word - amnesia.
Now...before the cry of "cliched", "worn out trophe" fills the space I'm thinking that it might be rather interesting if Sam saves Dean from Purgatory (that's a given, 'cause Sam HAS to save Dean), but Dean returns "new". As in, he remembers how to hunt but he doesn't remember Sam, or his life at all.
At the beginning of S6 Sam returned "different". Jared had the opportunity to explore another side of Sam. It was hard to watch but also fascinating. The dynamic between the brothers was tested.
I mentioned on my 7.23 ep reaction post that I'd love to see Dean returned altered in some way (toying with evil!Dean maybe..) so for him to come back with no memory of who he is would not only given Jensen some interesting material to work with (yes, I do think of the actors!), but it would also be another way of exploring the brother's dynamic.
Dean would still know how to hunt (instinct) so they could still stick to their MotW formula, but he would question stuff and Sam would have to fill in the gaps. Dean would have to completely trust Sam. Sam would be without his normal "big brother" and might have to remind Dean of stuff he did. We might even see Dean "instinctively" being protective of Sam (and Sam would be all wooby because he thought he'd lost that side of Dean). Sam would realise just how much having someone "watch your back" means to him. Also, it might be Sam's "fault" that Dean comes back the way he is. If he had to perform some ritual to get him back there might have been part of it that means the soul and person comes back "clean". Sam would rather have Dean back like that than not at all. (so Sam would have to emotionally deal with that decision maybe). And yes..it would mirror what Sam and Dean have already been through with Sam's lack of soul. I'd be ok with that.
Dean might even decide he doesn't want to hunt and leave, but realise there's an emptiness when he leaves Sam and the life.(awwwwww)
(CAN YOU TELL I'VE THOUGHT WAY TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS!?!)
Over time Dean would regain some memories - including his time in Hell - and have to face the fall out of that all over again. Sam would be having to deal with his own trauma of hell and losing Dean initially (Bob says some time has passed) and now having to deal with a brother who doesn't remember him.
Too much? Too cliched? Too predictable? I think it has some potential. Would they do that? They might. Dean going to Purgatory has to MEAN something. It has to change something - have an impact on their story lines. For him to return and just carry on would be a complete waste of story potential. We've already had post-hell Dean, and drinking!Dean. I'd love to see them take him in a new direction (something we haven't seen before) and this is one way I can see it going down.
(I haven't factored how Cas fits in or where they could take his story line, but I'm sure it would fit in there somewhere - but Cas can't give memories back...just saying. As for Crowley - with Dean "different" it might mean Crowley leaves them alone for a bit (they're not a threat) and ...well, idk... stuff happens later or something. Depends who the Big Bad is next season I suppose...).
In terms of hugs... we get two!! One when Sam rescues Dean and one when Dean finally regains all his memories - Sam probably has to hug Dean because remembering ALL THAT the man would need a hug.
Aaannnnyway, that's my thinky for the day....
I haven't read any speculation posts yet so apologies if this has already been tossed about. This is just me thinking out loud. Not exactly a "hope" for S8 but rather a possibility.
So, Bob Singer says " The brothers are reunited on screen quickly, but much time will have passed." (source)
I know there are some who want the boys to spend some time apart before they are reunited and others who want them together again straight away. If we can take this quote as true then looks like we are getting them back together straight away.
I admit to be one that was disappointed about this because some time apart would be interesting (at least a couple of eps maybe). HOWEVER... I'm thinking now that we could have both - them being immediately together...and yet not.
One word - amnesia.
Now...before the cry of "cliched", "worn out trophe" fills the space I'm thinking that it might be rather interesting if Sam saves Dean from Purgatory (that's a given, 'cause Sam HAS to save Dean), but Dean returns "new". As in, he remembers how to hunt but he doesn't remember Sam, or his life at all.
At the beginning of S6 Sam returned "different". Jared had the opportunity to explore another side of Sam. It was hard to watch but also fascinating. The dynamic between the brothers was tested.
I mentioned on my 7.23 ep reaction post that I'd love to see Dean returned altered in some way (toying with evil!Dean maybe..) so for him to come back with no memory of who he is would not only given Jensen some interesting material to work with (yes, I do think of the actors!), but it would also be another way of exploring the brother's dynamic.
Dean would still know how to hunt (instinct) so they could still stick to their MotW formula, but he would question stuff and Sam would have to fill in the gaps. Dean would have to completely trust Sam. Sam would be without his normal "big brother" and might have to remind Dean of stuff he did. We might even see Dean "instinctively" being protective of Sam (and Sam would be all wooby because he thought he'd lost that side of Dean). Sam would realise just how much having someone "watch your back" means to him. Also, it might be Sam's "fault" that Dean comes back the way he is. If he had to perform some ritual to get him back there might have been part of it that means the soul and person comes back "clean". Sam would rather have Dean back like that than not at all. (so Sam would have to emotionally deal with that decision maybe). And yes..it would mirror what Sam and Dean have already been through with Sam's lack of soul. I'd be ok with that.
Dean might even decide he doesn't want to hunt and leave, but realise there's an emptiness when he leaves Sam and the life.(awwwwww)
(CAN YOU TELL I'VE THOUGHT WAY TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS!?!)
Over time Dean would regain some memories - including his time in Hell - and have to face the fall out of that all over again. Sam would be having to deal with his own trauma of hell and losing Dean initially (Bob says some time has passed) and now having to deal with a brother who doesn't remember him.
Too much? Too cliched? Too predictable? I think it has some potential. Would they do that? They might. Dean going to Purgatory has to MEAN something. It has to change something - have an impact on their story lines. For him to return and just carry on would be a complete waste of story potential. We've already had post-hell Dean, and drinking!Dean. I'd love to see them take him in a new direction (something we haven't seen before) and this is one way I can see it going down.
(I haven't factored how Cas fits in or where they could take his story line, but I'm sure it would fit in there somewhere - but Cas can't give memories back...just saying. As for Crowley - with Dean "different" it might mean Crowley leaves them alone for a bit (they're not a threat) and ...well, idk... stuff happens later or something. Depends who the Big Bad is next season I suppose...).
In terms of hugs... we get two!! One when Sam rescues Dean and one when Dean finally regains all his memories - Sam probably has to hug Dean because remembering ALL THAT the man would need a hug.
Aaannnnyway, that's my thinky for the day....
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Date: 2012-06-10 04:09 am (UTC)Hmmm... I think for me that I like when there's something going on between them. I mean, I didn't like soulless!sam (though I loved the idea of it). That's not to say it has to be awful between them. I wouldn't want that at all... just different. A different way of looking at their relationship.
I wouldn't necessarily think there couldn't be brother moments between them. In fact, in my thinking, it would spurn a heap of brother moments. Times when Dean would remember something he'd done with Sam in the past, Sam reminding him of stuff they've done together etc. I wouldn't necessarily see amnesic!Dean as a nasty Dean, or even cold. He'd probably be frustrated, even angry maybe but I wouldn't see that there'd be distance between them necessarily.
If he loses his memory of Sam then he would also lose his memory of Cas. There would be no reason why Dean would trust Cas any more than Sam. In fact, being an angel may in fact make Cas less trust worthy (especially if he starts to remember what Cas did to Sam). I would say Cas would have to be the one to work for the trust.
The only reason I have posed this is because if Dean comes back hardly changed at all (even if he is all bad-ass - which, see, I haven't seen him actually lose that completely) then everything is much the same and there's no new challenge or focus. The boys continue on as before. Which, I know would please some, but I think some intrigue is always interesting.
Also, there's no reason Dean can't rediscover his "bad assness" as his memory returns. OR... he's just so friggin' badass because that's in his nature. When he's hunting he slips into gear - he won't have all the baggage he's been carrying around with him.
Buuut... it's just a thought. I actually have no real "hopes" for S8 other than they continue to deliver some good stories, with lots of peril and some awesome brotherly moments. <3
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Date: 2012-06-10 04:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-10 04:42 am (UTC)So it could mean we see them be friends because they actually get on rather than because they are brothers. I mean, we know that already, but it might be good to actually see it. (and after that awful Swap Meat episode we could do with the confirmation that they actually really like each other...)