An idea struck me...
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ash48I was thinking about SPN (as I do), mulling over the "maybe spoiler" that was quoted from Bob Singer and had a thought that might actually work at the beginning of S8. Cliched of course but, hey...
I haven't read any speculation posts yet so apologies if this has already been tossed about. This is just me thinking out loud. Not exactly a "hope" for S8 but rather a possibility.
So, Bob Singer says " The brothers are reunited on screen quickly, but much time will have passed." (source)
I know there are some who want the boys to spend some time apart before they are reunited and others who want them together again straight away. If we can take this quote as true then looks like we are getting them back together straight away.
I admit to be one that was disappointed about this because some time apart would be interesting (at least a couple of eps maybe). HOWEVER... I'm thinking now that we could have both - them being immediately together...and yet not.
One word - amnesia.
Now...before the cry of "cliched", "worn out trophe" fills the space I'm thinking that it might be rather interesting if Sam saves Dean from Purgatory (that's a given, 'cause Sam HAS to save Dean), but Dean returns "new". As in, he remembers how to hunt but he doesn't remember Sam, or his life at all.
At the beginning of S6 Sam returned "different". Jared had the opportunity to explore another side of Sam. It was hard to watch but also fascinating. The dynamic between the brothers was tested.
I mentioned on my 7.23 ep reaction post that I'd love to see Dean returned altered in some way (toying with evil!Dean maybe..) so for him to come back with no memory of who he is would not only given Jensen some interesting material to work with (yes, I do think of the actors!), but it would also be another way of exploring the brother's dynamic.
Dean would still know how to hunt (instinct) so they could still stick to their MotW formula, but he would question stuff and Sam would have to fill in the gaps. Dean would have to completely trust Sam. Sam would be without his normal "big brother" and might have to remind Dean of stuff he did. We might even see Dean "instinctively" being protective of Sam (and Sam would be all wooby because he thought he'd lost that side of Dean). Sam would realise just how much having someone "watch your back" means to him. Also, it might be Sam's "fault" that Dean comes back the way he is. If he had to perform some ritual to get him back there might have been part of it that means the soul and person comes back "clean". Sam would rather have Dean back like that than not at all. (so Sam would have to emotionally deal with that decision maybe). And yes..it would mirror what Sam and Dean have already been through with Sam's lack of soul. I'd be ok with that.
Dean might even decide he doesn't want to hunt and leave, but realise there's an emptiness when he leaves Sam and the life.(awwwwww)
(CAN YOU TELL I'VE THOUGHT WAY TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS!?!)
Over time Dean would regain some memories - including his time in Hell - and have to face the fall out of that all over again. Sam would be having to deal with his own trauma of hell and losing Dean initially (Bob says some time has passed) and now having to deal with a brother who doesn't remember him.
Too much? Too cliched? Too predictable? I think it has some potential. Would they do that? They might. Dean going to Purgatory has to MEAN something. It has to change something - have an impact on their story lines. For him to return and just carry on would be a complete waste of story potential. We've already had post-hell Dean, and drinking!Dean. I'd love to see them take him in a new direction (something we haven't seen before) and this is one way I can see it going down.
(I haven't factored how Cas fits in or where they could take his story line, but I'm sure it would fit in there somewhere - but Cas can't give memories back...just saying. As for Crowley - with Dean "different" it might mean Crowley leaves them alone for a bit (they're not a threat) and ...well, idk... stuff happens later or something. Depends who the Big Bad is next season I suppose...).
In terms of hugs... we get two!! One when Sam rescues Dean and one when Dean finally regains all his memories - Sam probably has to hug Dean because remembering ALL THAT the man would need a hug.
Aaannnnyway, that's my thinky for the day....
I haven't read any speculation posts yet so apologies if this has already been tossed about. This is just me thinking out loud. Not exactly a "hope" for S8 but rather a possibility.
So, Bob Singer says " The brothers are reunited on screen quickly, but much time will have passed." (source)
I know there are some who want the boys to spend some time apart before they are reunited and others who want them together again straight away. If we can take this quote as true then looks like we are getting them back together straight away.
I admit to be one that was disappointed about this because some time apart would be interesting (at least a couple of eps maybe). HOWEVER... I'm thinking now that we could have both - them being immediately together...and yet not.
One word - amnesia.
Now...before the cry of "cliched", "worn out trophe" fills the space I'm thinking that it might be rather interesting if Sam saves Dean from Purgatory (that's a given, 'cause Sam HAS to save Dean), but Dean returns "new". As in, he remembers how to hunt but he doesn't remember Sam, or his life at all.
At the beginning of S6 Sam returned "different". Jared had the opportunity to explore another side of Sam. It was hard to watch but also fascinating. The dynamic between the brothers was tested.
I mentioned on my 7.23 ep reaction post that I'd love to see Dean returned altered in some way (toying with evil!Dean maybe..) so for him to come back with no memory of who he is would not only given Jensen some interesting material to work with (yes, I do think of the actors!), but it would also be another way of exploring the brother's dynamic.
Dean would still know how to hunt (instinct) so they could still stick to their MotW formula, but he would question stuff and Sam would have to fill in the gaps. Dean would have to completely trust Sam. Sam would be without his normal "big brother" and might have to remind Dean of stuff he did. We might even see Dean "instinctively" being protective of Sam (and Sam would be all wooby because he thought he'd lost that side of Dean). Sam would realise just how much having someone "watch your back" means to him. Also, it might be Sam's "fault" that Dean comes back the way he is. If he had to perform some ritual to get him back there might have been part of it that means the soul and person comes back "clean". Sam would rather have Dean back like that than not at all. (so Sam would have to emotionally deal with that decision maybe). And yes..it would mirror what Sam and Dean have already been through with Sam's lack of soul. I'd be ok with that.
Dean might even decide he doesn't want to hunt and leave, but realise there's an emptiness when he leaves Sam and the life.(awwwwww)
(CAN YOU TELL I'VE THOUGHT WAY TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS!?!)
Over time Dean would regain some memories - including his time in Hell - and have to face the fall out of that all over again. Sam would be having to deal with his own trauma of hell and losing Dean initially (Bob says some time has passed) and now having to deal with a brother who doesn't remember him.
Too much? Too cliched? Too predictable? I think it has some potential. Would they do that? They might. Dean going to Purgatory has to MEAN something. It has to change something - have an impact on their story lines. For him to return and just carry on would be a complete waste of story potential. We've already had post-hell Dean, and drinking!Dean. I'd love to see them take him in a new direction (something we haven't seen before) and this is one way I can see it going down.
(I haven't factored how Cas fits in or where they could take his story line, but I'm sure it would fit in there somewhere - but Cas can't give memories back...just saying. As for Crowley - with Dean "different" it might mean Crowley leaves them alone for a bit (they're not a threat) and ...well, idk... stuff happens later or something. Depends who the Big Bad is next season I suppose...).
In terms of hugs... we get two!! One when Sam rescues Dean and one when Dean finally regains all his memories - Sam probably has to hug Dean because remembering ALL THAT the man would need a hug.
Aaannnnyway, that's my thinky for the day....
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Date: 2012-06-10 03:17 pm (UTC)I do not want yet another rehashing of all the "Sam 'ran away' to college", "Sam didn't save Dean from hell", "Sam got addicted to demon blood", "Sam raised Lucifer", "Sam let Dean be turned into a vampire" constant moments of one sided hurt driving them apart with mistrust and in doing so trash this plateau of true partnership and trust they've been working on so nicely this year.
I mean I wouldn't mind them covering those things, along with "dad's missing", dad's dead", "sold soul", "hellfire", "Sam's dead", "everyone's dead" etc., it's just "how" they do it that worries me, I'm so wary of the heavy handed blame the writers tend to fling around for the sake of dramarama when tackling these issues you know?
But I do love the idea of some sort of quest or tasks to be completed, some time table to give momentum to a goal - that I think would work very well for the show.
I'm pretty sure both guys will step up to the plate admirably, they've both shown some remarkable subtle abilities when faced with playing a new facet of their character and I honestly think they enjoy getting some real development they can flex their acting muscles with... *sigh* - and you know, flexing muscles of all sorts is kind of nice for us isn't it? Hee!
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Date: 2012-06-10 11:09 pm (UTC)/tangent.
Whatever they do it would be great to see them give the boy some meat to sink their teeth into. (and us!)
xox
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Date: 2012-06-11 08:48 am (UTC)Let's run away and get a nice cottage in Australia".... ha!
*points at you* I see what you did there....