8.03...and also...
Oct. 19th, 2012 12:06 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ash48There seems to be a major sticking point about 8.03 and I feel like I just need to say this...
I've seem comments about Sam having amnesia about his past life. Him forgetting that he once did have normal. That he would have had a birthday cake before his time with Amelia. Jess would have probably made him one. Even Dean (maybe even John!) would have given him one.
The thing is. He does. He has forgotten those things. The fact is bad things make you forget about the good things. They do. I have SEEN it happen. Horrible things can erase all other good things (and I have honestly witnessed this. It's freaky). If your life is full of pain and heartache then it taints everything else. Even the past.
I can totally believe this has happened to Sam. We know the trauma Sam has experienced. I don't need to list it. So for him to think he has NEVER had anything good in his life is totally believable. In fact, it's a sure sign that something is wrong.
We haven't had the whole picture yet. Both Sam and Dean are suffering from their gap year. We've been given lots of hints. The cake is but one of them. (and I can't believe the writers or the Js have forgotten Sam's past. Jess was mentioned in the last ep. Sam remembers that "dream like" moment because it's recent.).
ETA: New (better!) theory below. I mean, I can totally accept Sam forgetting anything that might have represented "normal" for him before after all the suffering he has endured but I also love that it's Amelia who mentions the cake. Not Sam. He didn't say he's never had b'day cake before. (So stop giving him a hard time about it! *g*)
I've seem comments about Sam having amnesia about his past life. Him forgetting that he once did have normal. That he would have had a birthday cake before his time with Amelia. Jess would have probably made him one. Even Dean (maybe even John!) would have given him one.
The thing is. He does. He has forgotten those things. The fact is bad things make you forget about the good things. They do. I have SEEN it happen. Horrible things can erase all other good things (and I have honestly witnessed this. It's freaky). If your life is full of pain and heartache then it taints everything else. Even the past.
I can totally believe this has happened to Sam. We know the trauma Sam has experienced. I don't need to list it. So for him to think he has NEVER had anything good in his life is totally believable. In fact, it's a sure sign that something is wrong.
We haven't had the whole picture yet. Both Sam and Dean are suffering from their gap year. We've been given lots of hints. The cake is but one of them. (and I can't believe the writers or the Js have forgotten Sam's past. Jess was mentioned in the last ep. Sam remembers that "dream like" moment because it's recent.).
ETA: New (better!) theory below. I mean, I can totally accept Sam forgetting anything that might have represented "normal" for him before after all the suffering he has endured but I also love that it's Amelia who mentions the cake. Not Sam. He didn't say he's never had b'day cake before. (So stop giving him a hard time about it! *g*)
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Date: 2012-10-19 10:42 pm (UTC)I find it rather amusing how fandom reacts to this. All these assertions about things being 'out of character', lamenting that S&D don't call each other out on things, and remind each other of the past. AS IF people in real life would do that. People often act inconsistenly. People who are very close to each other do oftne do NOT talk about past shared events explicitly and peoples memories of their past are know NOT to be reliable, but highly state dependant (happy people are more likely to recall happy life events or put a happy slant on memories, depressed people recall sad memeories etc....) For some weired reason fandom seems to expect Sam and Dean to act like the poster boys for mental health and healthy relationships. IDEK....
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Date: 2012-10-20 10:20 am (UTC)Nail. Head. ;)
I think they are so completely human which works in a rather ironic why considering they are always dealing with monsters - often on the border line of being monsters themselves.
I've always stated that it's their flaws that make them so interesting. They are not poster boys - they are seriously troubled and flawed. Considering everything they have been through it's amazing how well they do.
xx