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ash48Jerry is so good to us...
He had some interesting responses to the pattern. Most people looking at the far wall and seeing perhaps a code of some sort (I really hoped it was that!). Turns out it's those crosses the windows make. @superwiki picked it up. :)
I like the way the lighting emphasising those crosses (now we know they are there they stand out!). I love that this kind of thought is put into the sets.
These shots are awesome:
Dead Deans. Great CGI.
These high angle shots make my nether's quiver and touches me right where my bathing suit goes.
I was curious about that lighting pattern on the floor. They can't create that without having a pattern like that somewhere above them. Of course I had to check it out and...of course that pattern is there! (they've really thought this gorgeous set out). Very cool!
I wonder if that's "natural" light - like a sky light or if it's part of the lighting in the bunker. Either way - it's beautiful. Adore that table!
Speaking of beautiful...
I love how the music ended just short of the actual end. Created a poignancy I felt. I like that it's clearly autumn (err, fall), maybe symbolising a change.
Now, speaking of music. I have to chat about the title of the episode. Usually it's pretty obvious what the title is referring to. They mostly use song, movie, book or TV show titles in some form. I've been pondering this title because it didn't immediately leap out.
The song is used beautifully at the end. I assume Robbie had that in mind all along, but I wondered who and what he was referring to.
The lyrics that were used in the episode:
... is the undisputed truth
But I have to have things my own way to keep me in my youth
Like a ship without an anchor, like a slave without a chain
Just the thought of those sweet ladies sends a shiver through my veins
And I will go on shining, shining like brand new
I'll never look behind me, my troubles will be few
Goodbye stranger it's been nice, hope you find your paradise
Tried to see your point of view, hope your dreams will all come true
Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane, will we ever meet again
Feel no sorrow, feel no shame, come tomorrow, feel no pain
Sweet devotion (Goodbye Mary), it's not for me (Goodbye Jane)
Just give me motion (Will we ever)
I figure we can take them in many different ways. When I heard "ship without and anchor, slave without a chain" I felt it was directly relating to Sam and Dean and how Dean will be Sam's anchor during the trials. It also made me think of Sam promising Dean he isn't going to lie anymore - like a goodbye to an old habit.
I think it could also refer to Cas. He's been a "stranger" so many times during the series - "so which Cas are you now?". He said he was back to just him so maybe it's about saying goodbye to his past. Time to move on. If I thought he wasn't going to be any more eps this season then it might signal a good-bye until next year (I can't imagine them solving the demon and angel tablet story line in 6 episodes). I don't know if he's back or not. I'm not spoilerphobe about it, I just haven't read anything.
I think the Feel no sorrow, feel no shame, come tomorrow, feel no pain, Sweet devotion (Goodbye Mary), it's not for me (Goodbye Jane) fits nicely with him. Can I push it and say Mary and Jane are Sam and Dean? *ducks* probably not.
Probably, mostly importantly, it was good-bye to Meg. Meg has been a bit of a strange these past few years. Starting off in one persona (pure evil), ending on another . She's the longest running secondary character (she appeared even before Bobby) so it might be her good-bye song.
Whatever it meant I think it was a great choice. Nice to see music being used in the show like this.
Finally, I love the smile Dean gives Sam when Sam's suggested he spend some time with Miss October. That whole scene was a sheer delight.
Thanks show for being awesome.
He had some interesting responses to the pattern. Most people looking at the far wall and seeing perhaps a code of some sort (I really hoped it was that!). Turns out it's those crosses the windows make. @superwiki picked it up. :)
I like the way the lighting emphasising those crosses (now we know they are there they stand out!). I love that this kind of thought is put into the sets.
These shots are awesome:
Dead Deans. Great CGI.
These high angle shots make my nether's quiver and touches me right where my bathing suit goes.
I was curious about that lighting pattern on the floor. They can't create that without having a pattern like that somewhere above them. Of course I had to check it out and...of course that pattern is there! (they've really thought this gorgeous set out). Very cool!
I wonder if that's "natural" light - like a sky light or if it's part of the lighting in the bunker. Either way - it's beautiful. Adore that table!
Speaking of beautiful...
I love how the music ended just short of the actual end. Created a poignancy I felt. I like that it's clearly autumn (err, fall), maybe symbolising a change.
Now, speaking of music. I have to chat about the title of the episode. Usually it's pretty obvious what the title is referring to. They mostly use song, movie, book or TV show titles in some form. I've been pondering this title because it didn't immediately leap out.
The song is used beautifully at the end. I assume Robbie had that in mind all along, but I wondered who and what he was referring to.
The lyrics that were used in the episode:
... is the undisputed truth
But I have to have things my own way to keep me in my youth
Like a ship without an anchor, like a slave without a chain
Just the thought of those sweet ladies sends a shiver through my veins
And I will go on shining, shining like brand new
I'll never look behind me, my troubles will be few
Goodbye stranger it's been nice, hope you find your paradise
Tried to see your point of view, hope your dreams will all come true
Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane, will we ever meet again
Feel no sorrow, feel no shame, come tomorrow, feel no pain
Sweet devotion (Goodbye Mary), it's not for me (Goodbye Jane)
Just give me motion (Will we ever)
I figure we can take them in many different ways. When I heard "ship without and anchor, slave without a chain" I felt it was directly relating to Sam and Dean and how Dean will be Sam's anchor during the trials. It also made me think of Sam promising Dean he isn't going to lie anymore - like a goodbye to an old habit.
I think it could also refer to Cas. He's been a "stranger" so many times during the series - "so which Cas are you now?". He said he was back to just him so maybe it's about saying goodbye to his past. Time to move on. If I thought he wasn't going to be any more eps this season then it might signal a good-bye until next year (I can't imagine them solving the demon and angel tablet story line in 6 episodes). I don't know if he's back or not. I'm not spoilerphobe about it, I just haven't read anything.
I think the Feel no sorrow, feel no shame, come tomorrow, feel no pain, Sweet devotion (Goodbye Mary), it's not for me (Goodbye Jane) fits nicely with him. Can I push it and say Mary and Jane are Sam and Dean? *ducks* probably not.
Probably, mostly importantly, it was good-bye to Meg. Meg has been a bit of a strange these past few years. Starting off in one persona (pure evil), ending on another . She's the longest running secondary character (she appeared even before Bobby) so it might be her good-bye song.
Whatever it meant I think it was a great choice. Nice to see music being used in the show like this.
Finally, I love the smile Dean gives Sam when Sam's suggested he spend some time with Miss October. That whole scene was a sheer delight.
Thanks show for being awesome.
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Date: 2013-03-23 01:09 pm (UTC)it was good-bye to Meg.
Meg. *sigh* I was really, really hoping that we'd have Meg all the way up to the final season. Maybe they'll make up for it by briefly bringing John back in some manner, but I kinda doubt it. I hate how they're just . . . erasing . . . all the characters from the early years. On the other hand, if, in the final episodes of the final season, we're left with just Sam, Dean, and Baby against the world, as it was in the first few episodes of S1, now THAT would be a perfect full-circle revisitation, and I could definitely live with Show ending in that manner. (Still mad about Meg, though.) ;)
I love the smile Dean gives Sam when Sam's suggested he spend some time with Miss October. That whole scene was a sheer delight.
Scenes like that one are why I watch Show. Why I keep watching Show. :)
Overall, this was a visually gorgeous episode. I've always liked the scenes in Naomi's office because they remind me of 2001, and EVERYTHING in the Bat Cave tends to shiver my timbers. The last shot of the bus and the lovely Fall colors was pretty, but more than a little confusing -- unless Show has been doing more time-jump shenanigans, it's supposed to be SPRING in North America right now. So all those pretty fall colors, as gorgeous as they are, should not exist. My favorite visual was the magical ("sparkly" as
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Date: 2013-03-25 11:02 am (UTC)And yeah - it's hard to see characters constantly being removed but I have long accepted that this is part of the 'verse. I think it IS about Sam and Dean and Baby against the world. They touch and are touched by many other lives, but in the end it's jus them. For me, if they give a character a good send off (like they did with Bobby, Jo and Ellen then I'm pretty ok about it).
Though it would have been great to see some more Meg - especially when they finally seem to have got a handle on her.
I did wonder what time of the month it was in the SPN timeline. It's autumn where I am so I'm going to accept that they live in an Aus climate in...um..America. Or something magical like that...;D
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