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Dedicated to Kayla, aka [livejournal.com profile] popcornleader for her up coming birthday! Hope you have a good one hun! (*meep* I know it's early!)

Title: Who Are You?
Vidder: Ash
Titles: Sharvie
Song: Who Are You by The Who
Category: Hmmm ... themed montage I'd say.
Length: 4.30.m
Size 37.5mb
Summary: A catalogue of aliases, pseudonyms, costumes etc.
Links:
watch: Youtube
Download: mediafire
Download 4shared

Thanks:
Huge thanks to my wonderful beta [livejournal.com profile] _sharvie_ not only for the beta but for making the cool title cards. I knew what I wanted and somehow she read my mind. Thanks for all your hard work darlin'.

Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] yourlibrarian for the idea/suggestion. She mentioned in a meta that "someone should vid all the boys' aliases to the song "Who Are You". Well, as I like to put things into neat little boxes (call it anal if you will!) I decided to give this a go.

Thanks also to the members at [livejournal.com profile] spn_sceneit for their help. Especially for linking me to the sites Super-wiki and Winchester Journals This cut down hours of research time. Clipping took long enough, but at least I didn't have to go by memory only.

Vid Notes:

Not much here really. I tried to get them all - though I know there are a couple I missed, purely because they were so difficult to fit in to the themes I was working with. Oh and sound editing is not one of my favourite things to do. Especially when the original sound levels vary so wildly. But I did my best. :)

No money made but comments are always gratefully accepted (and appreciated). :D

Date: 2009-02-18 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Hee! Thanks - I hope it's ok.

As far as I know [livejournal.com profile] spn_sceneit haven't set up an "area" for tech help - mostly finding scenes, beta's, inspirations etc. Though there are places for WMM help I'm sure. I don't use that program otherwise I'd certainly offer some help.

SVS (http://www.supernaturalvideostation.co.uk) has a help section in their forums and there's LOTS of stuff re WMM. Let me know if you don't have any luck because there some vidders I know that I'm sure would be happy give you some advice.

xx

Date: 2009-02-18 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
It was cute! Made me laugh and I especially liked the way you edited some of the scenes together, like (if my memory doesn't fail me) the 'antiquers' line followed by the ass-slap from 'Bugs'. :D And hee, so entertaining to see them flinging badges and aliases all over the place!

I will look there, thank you. I really had no idea who to ask, and I didn't think you DID use WMM or I would have asked you specifically :P

It's kind of a very amateur video and probably not very good, but I'd still like to be able to finish it!

Date: 2009-02-18 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Thank you. :)

Good luck with it. I hear that WMM can be a pain sometimes. If you have no joy let me know and I'll see if I can link somewhere that can help.

Date: 2009-02-18 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
I'm poking through the forums and coming up empty. The short version of the problem is that I'm using Vista and this is the first vid I've made with WMM on Vista, and it won't save correctly. It gets to a certain point in the vid and the video disappears and the screen is black, and I've saved it over and over in all different formats to no avail. I am so stuck! D:

Date: 2009-02-18 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Hmmm ... leave it with me. I'll see if I can find someone who may have an answer. (I'm a mac user so I have no experience with Vista either ....) but I'm sure there will be someone who can help. I'll let you know how I go.....

Date: 2009-02-18 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
Thank you so much, honey! <333 It's intensely frustrating to have done all that work and not be able to actually SAVE it. I abandoned it for months and finally finished it and now it's just sitting there as a project.

Date: 2009-02-19 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_sharvie_/
Check out: http://community.livejournal.com/vidding_tech/

I know someone just asked this question there a little bit ago. For all I know it could have been you. Anyway, usually they are pretty good with coming up with answers. Check back in old questions. I know just a few weeks ago I gave a link to Papajohns WMM site. Which answers tons of questions of WMM in particular. Just from what you are saying I'd be willing to bet your files are encoded avi files, which is just so not good. Adding Vista into the mix makes it worse.

I'd go into more detail but my computer broke so I'm typing this up at work and don't have my handy-dandy links.

Google PapaJohn's WMM: troubleshooting vista and that should get you to the site.

Good luck!

edit

Date: 2009-02-19 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_sharvie_/
*encoded Divx/Xvid avi files

It's the Divx/Xvid part that causes the problems.

Re: edit

Date: 2009-02-19 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I'm also sending you a PM with a contact for help....

Date: 2009-02-19 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for trying to help, I really appreciate it. :D I poked around on some of those sites and found something that was supposed to help, and I'm still messing around with the fix to see if it will solve the problem, although I haven't had much luck so far (and it was the middle of the night when I was doing it!).

I'm not sure what you mean by encoded avi files... uh, I mean, I guess I kind of understand? I made the clips myself and yes, they are avi files... and of course, yeah, Vista :P I never had this problem on XP, even though WMM would crash all the time.

Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to try and help me, especially when your computer is not working.

Date: 2009-02-20 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_sharvie_/
No problem. The tech side of this stuff just fascinates me. :D

I messed up when I said "encoded avi". What I meant to say is that the way in which you encode that avi can be causing the problems. You can have DV-avi as well as the dreaded divx-avi. Both two types of avi but editing programs love to work with DV but hate to deal with Divx.

Think of video compression like a hot dog. You can have several different types of dogs and buns. But while one type of dog is something your tummy (the editing program) loves to eat, another it absolutely hates to digest and you get a tummy ache. In other words, the program crashes.

Avi is a type of bun. It's effectively a wrapper the files are stored in. Avi for is very popular for distribution because the codecs (dogs) you can put into it compress very nicely for travel over the internet. Most popular are Divx and Xvid. They are wonderful to get good quality looks with tiny file size. The problem is that video editing programs hate, hate, hate, to edit them because what makes them so great for internet distribution is the exact same thing that makes them hell to edit with. They are highly, highly compressed.

But if you say that you made these files yourself then I'm not sure what you did. Unless someone told you to make them dvix/xvid, which they should have not have done. And adding Vista into the mix just adds to the amount that can go wrong.

If you can make your own files from DVDs you want to stick to uncompressed or lossless formats as much as possible. But the problem is that every tiny little 30 second clip now becomes this huge monster sized file! What a pain in the butt.

This isn't an easy problem to solve. So don't beat yourself up about it. Keep lurking on the sites and let Ash help you out. I probably made matters worse by confusing you further but if you have any questions, I'll be happy to try and help. I know I can get kinda wordy so errrp. Yeah, good luck!

Date: 2009-02-20 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
I don't mind wordy :D I meant, I made clips from downloaded episodes, which means I'm sure they used Divx. The weird thing is most of the clips DO work...

Anyway, I'll keep fussing with it. I never turned my laptop on today so I haven't tried anything else yet.

I think my biggest problem is that if I was actually a vidder and not just someone who dabbles very occasionally, it would be worth using a program besides WMM...

*fails* I forgot to thank you again for taking the time to type all that up! :D
Edited Date: 2009-02-20 06:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-02-20 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_sharvie_/
If it helps, it was worth it! :D

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