spoilery stuff…..
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ash48I just had a thought (as you do).
I have a feeling the Show sees what Dean did as saving Sam. Purely, just, saving Sam. Many feel (me included - now) that Sam didn't actually need saving (aside from the fact that he did so he didn't die etc etc). He was ready to die so the only reason he was brought back was because Dean couldn't live with him dead. So if this is the case they really won't feel that there is anything to address in the way Dean actually went about saving him. It's just what you do to save your family - they are the boundaries you cross and it doesn't matter because at least you've saved your brother. It's pretty simple really (and therefore solidifies the fact that the manner in which Dean saved Sam won't be addressed because it doesn't actually matter. To them).
(you all knew that already didn't you? I'm just slow it would seem.../o\)
And now for a wee rant.
There are two spoilers that are worrying me a little (and yeah, I know I should just wait for the eps to air), but…
One tag line I saw: "How far would you go to save your family?" (for 9.10 promo)
(what? allowing an angel to possess a loved one without their knowledge or consent isn't enough? There's something MORE, something FURTHER, something more WRONG that what has already happened? The suggestion is the lengths Dean will go is making a deal with Crowley. Because yeah, that's clearly going TOO DAMN FAR! OOOH, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW DEAN! You are crossing boundaries! You are GOING TOO FAR NOW! Sheesh...
and
Sam seeks penance...
What the fuck for?! That is worrying me more than ANYTHING! I mean, I get that Sam will feel guilty that his body was taken over (again) and killed someone, but surely…SURELY he can't feel that he's to blame for that? And does this mean he'll lay none of the blame on Dean (whose entire fault it actually is?) ACK! This is gonna kill me! If it's part of the characterisation (Sam being so damn broken that he can't see past this being his fault etc but he'll start to learn over the course of the season that not everything that's happened to him is his fault..), then I might find it acceptable. But if the Show think Sam is somehow to blame I think I'm gonna cry. And cry. And cry.
Dammit. I just gotsta be patient.
I have a feeling the Show sees what Dean did as saving Sam. Purely, just, saving Sam. Many feel (me included - now) that Sam didn't actually need saving (aside from the fact that he did so he didn't die etc etc). He was ready to die so the only reason he was brought back was because Dean couldn't live with him dead. So if this is the case they really won't feel that there is anything to address in the way Dean actually went about saving him. It's just what you do to save your family - they are the boundaries you cross and it doesn't matter because at least you've saved your brother. It's pretty simple really (and therefore solidifies the fact that the manner in which Dean saved Sam won't be addressed because it doesn't actually matter. To them).
(you all knew that already didn't you? I'm just slow it would seem.../o\)
And now for a wee rant.
There are two spoilers that are worrying me a little (and yeah, I know I should just wait for the eps to air), but…
One tag line I saw: "How far would you go to save your family?" (for 9.10 promo)
(what? allowing an angel to possess a loved one without their knowledge or consent isn't enough? There's something MORE, something FURTHER, something more WRONG that what has already happened? The suggestion is the lengths Dean will go is making a deal with Crowley. Because yeah, that's clearly going TOO DAMN FAR! OOOH, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW DEAN! You are crossing boundaries! You are GOING TOO FAR NOW! Sheesh...
and
Sam seeks penance...
What the fuck for?! That is worrying me more than ANYTHING! I mean, I get that Sam will feel guilty that his body was taken over (again) and killed someone, but surely…SURELY he can't feel that he's to blame for that? And does this mean he'll lay none of the blame on Dean (whose entire fault it actually is?) ACK! This is gonna kill me! If it's part of the characterisation (Sam being so damn broken that he can't see past this being his fault etc but he'll start to learn over the course of the season that not everything that's happened to him is his fault..), then I might find it acceptable. But if the Show think Sam is somehow to blame I think I'm gonna cry. And cry. And cry.
Dammit. I just gotsta be patient.
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Date: 2014-01-09 01:05 am (UTC)Dean surely saw it that way -- he wouldn't have done it otherwise. ;)
what? allowing an angel to possess a loved one without their knowledge or consent isn't enough? There's something MORE, something FURTHER, something more WRONG that what has already happened? The suggestion is the lengths Dean will go is making a deal with Crowley. Because yeah, that's clearly going TOO DAMN FAR! OOOH, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW DEAN! You are crossing boundaries! You are GOING TOO FAR NOW! Sheesh...
Oh, you. :D Because the guys have never, EVER made deals with demons before. And in a similar vein, regarding the "Sam seeks penance" line, all I can say is place no trust in the CW promo department -- geez, do those idjits even WATCH the show?
From the article: "Sam will be free of Gadreel in short order."
No problem there -- I want SAM back, darn it. The downside (one of a good half-dozen) of Sam getting loose from his "dark passenger" and being made aware of the situation is that he will find out about Kevin. And Sam being Sam, well, despite being possessed at the time, he WILL blame himself for Kevin's death, oh, he will. But he's a Winchester, and self-blame is just what they do. So, if this happens, I won't be surprised / annoyed. On the other hand . . .
But if the Show think Sam is somehow to blame I think I'm gonna cry.
You and me both, bb. NOT COOL. D: They wouldn't dare . . . would they?
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Date: 2014-01-10 12:09 am (UTC)Hee…oh for sure. And maybe because he thinks that it'll be enough for them to leave it at that. I mean, I'm sure they will explore the fallout (which they are already), but it makes me wonder if what Dean did will be addressed.
No problem there -- I want SAM back, darn it.
Yeah. I'm pretty darn happy about that. Great that we don't have to wait episodes to get Sam back. AND we should get to see the potential fall out pretty soon also.
They wouldn't dare . . . would they?
THEY BETTER NOT!!
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