10.15 Poll and comment
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I really, really enjoyed that episode. I was on the edge of my seat for some parts and had my eyes behind my hands for other parts (yay! gory bits!). The cinematography was lovely and the pacing felt (mostly) good. The MoTW was possibly one of my favourites this season. It harked back to a past monster and introduced a new one (and I kinda love creepy worms inside of people!).
There was some solid Sam n Dean stuff and if we hadn't see it ALL before I would be on the edge of myself wondering what on earth will happen next. The fact that we are seeing an identical story line to S3 (Dean in mortal peril and Sam feeling helpless to save him) makes me feel a little weary of it all. But it's ok. I feel like I've turned a corner and my deep gloom for the Show seems to have lifted (hiatus is good for that!).
IF the show deviates from the predictable trajectory - Sam does something "bad" (you know, sleeps with a demon, drinks demon blood and kills and innocent nurse etc) to save Dean but fails (because there are others who will do that more successfully) and then spends next season making up for his failure - I will be bloody thrilled. It would be incredibly awesome if they take a surprising turn (one that I can't even imagine at this point) and do something that not only brings in Sam's past attempts at saving Dean, but also looks at Dean's choices when he's saved Sam I will be pretty darn happy. But, if it doesn't, I suppose I'll just have to enjoy lots of angsty Sam and Dean being influenced more and more by the mark. :) I'm afraid I won't enjoy seeing Sam fail again, but I am totally bracing myself for it. After all, it is part of Sam's blue print (*sniff*).
That all came about because at the end, when Sam felt such deep sorrow for not being able to save Kit (aka Dean), I had a mixed reaction of - "oh wow, we have a Sam moment!" and "seriously? How many meat suits have they killed without ever attempting to save them!? Why is he suddenly feeling bad about not being able to save someone now?!". I KNOW it's not about that and we're not supposed to think about meat suits as being human - but still, it was in the back of my mind. I also know it's about setting up Sam's worry-about-failing story line - so I know why we saw it (yes, I'm over analysing but that's just me...).
Aaaaanway. Solid ep. Dean sneaking the icing off the cake was glorious, as was the two of them working together so perfectly. I also love Dean getting on with the job and seeing the self reflection in the MoTW rather than through mirror gazing.
I often wonder if the show could survive (continue?) with simple MoTW eps, with an overall season arc (and baddie) and WITHOUT the brother angst. The two of them against the world, rather than against each other. Possibly not. Perhaps is the constant drama between them that makes it so compelling.
I really, really enjoyed that episode. I was on the edge of my seat for some parts and had my eyes behind my hands for other parts (yay! gory bits!). The cinematography was lovely and the pacing felt (mostly) good. The MoTW was possibly one of my favourites this season. It harked back to a past monster and introduced a new one (and I kinda love creepy worms inside of people!).
There was some solid Sam n Dean stuff and if we hadn't see it ALL before I would be on the edge of myself wondering what on earth will happen next. The fact that we are seeing an identical story line to S3 (Dean in mortal peril and Sam feeling helpless to save him) makes me feel a little weary of it all. But it's ok. I feel like I've turned a corner and my deep gloom for the Show seems to have lifted (hiatus is good for that!).
IF the show deviates from the predictable trajectory - Sam does something "bad" (you know, sleeps with a demon, drinks demon blood and kills and innocent nurse etc) to save Dean but fails (because there are others who will do that more successfully) and then spends next season making up for his failure - I will be bloody thrilled. It would be incredibly awesome if they take a surprising turn (one that I can't even imagine at this point) and do something that not only brings in Sam's past attempts at saving Dean, but also looks at Dean's choices when he's saved Sam I will be pretty darn happy. But, if it doesn't, I suppose I'll just have to enjoy lots of angsty Sam and Dean being influenced more and more by the mark. :) I'm afraid I won't enjoy seeing Sam fail again, but I am totally bracing myself for it. After all, it is part of Sam's blue print (*sniff*).
That all came about because at the end, when Sam felt such deep sorrow for not being able to save Kit (aka Dean), I had a mixed reaction of - "oh wow, we have a Sam moment!" and "seriously? How many meat suits have they killed without ever attempting to save them!? Why is he suddenly feeling bad about not being able to save someone now?!". I KNOW it's not about that and we're not supposed to think about meat suits as being human - but still, it was in the back of my mind. I also know it's about setting up Sam's worry-about-failing story line - so I know why we saw it (yes, I'm over analysing but that's just me...).
Aaaaanway. Solid ep. Dean sneaking the icing off the cake was glorious, as was the two of them working together so perfectly. I also love Dean getting on with the job and seeing the self reflection in the MoTW rather than through mirror gazing.
I often wonder if the show could survive (continue?) with simple MoTW eps, with an overall season arc (and baddie) and WITHOUT the brother angst. The two of them against the world, rather than against each other. Possibly not. Perhaps is the constant drama between them that makes it so compelling.
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Date: 2015-03-21 10:01 pm (UTC)Usually, I rewatch every episode one time, at least. But rewatching s10e15 would be nothing but wasted time, for moi - and would make moi getting rather miffed again.
*nods firmly*
- Because adding *coughs* Cole to the story [again] the way Jenny Klein did, was an epic fail, IMO.
Alone his first scene: disrespecting Baby's personal space the way he did, made me raise my brows in disbelief.
*raises brows again at memory*
And then, it went better and better... he called Teh Hotties "Sammy-boy" and "Dean-o" like they already were bff's since the Kindergarten. And what, finally, took the bisquit for me, was that he permanently tried to impose himself on Our Boys.
Do you remember s02e03? Where Gordon the die-hard hunter was also calling Sam 'Sammy'? With only one sentence [and bitch face #149], Sam made clear that only his brother has the right to call him Sammy.
- So forgive me, my dear, but I was *coughs* slightly confused, as Sam even doesn't seem to notice, this time. Au contraire, he actually brought his former torturer a piece of cake! Does that mean that we went from "T-1000" (o-tone El Deano in s06) to complete Alzeimer & Maso!Sam in s10, meanwhile?
- Aside from the fact, that Hottie #1 usually would've kicked the assbutt across the country just for calling him "Dean-o" - or not respecting Baby, alone.
*glares*
Oh dear.
Well, I've read the comments above me and your answers, honey, so I know you see that episode [and Sam's *coughs* strange acting] more as a mirror to all his efforts to save Dean.
Sorry, but I can'r follow you that way. Not with this horrible written episode, at least.
Because I really thought in s10, the times of silent!Sam were over and the brother started talking and listening to each other again.
What Dean is still doing. But not Sam. And this is pissing me off, to be honest. Because it was always Sam, who wanted "no more secrets."
*nods**nods*
Phew. Okeh, sorry for my rant, sweetie, but this was brooding inside me since I finished watching the episode.
- If it wouldn't be so annoying, I would add said eppy to the already famous "LOL canon" but so... hmm... perhaps, "GRRR canon?"
... But the worm scenes were pretteh creepy, if I haven't mentioned that before.
*winks & waves*
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Date: 2015-03-22 02:18 am (UTC)The reason I enjoyed this one is that it had all the basic elements that I think make up a good episode of SPN - mostly, an interesting MoTW and the boys working a case together. Sure, it had it's usual irritations but I'm trying hard these days to look past those (which, mostly doesn't work I have to say).
Cole calling Sam "Sammy" and neither of them reacting to it has been an issue for many fans I've seen. It bothered me too, but it's something that happened back in S2 and even though us die hard fans remember it - neither the writers, casual fans or the show runner have memories that long. OR if they do, they have decided that a simple nick name is not worth Sam and Dean pursuing. In the middle of all the trauma if Sam had said "no one calls me that but Dean" - it would have come across trite and petty. Sam has moved so far on from that now, that I think it was in keeping with Sam and Dean's characters at the moment. I think Sam's "none taken" showed enough irritation with him. Cole calls them that because they terrify him. It's bravado and I think both Sam and Dean recognise that.
And the secrets thing will ALWAYS be in the show. Dean hasn't told Sam the mortal danger Sam's in (unless it happened off screen) and Sam is trying to find a cure behind Dean's back. Dean not keeping Sam in the loop is very much in line with the Dean we've been seeing lately (sadly, I think) and Sam may be aware of his own danger and that's why he's keen to keep looking. Though, I think it's more about saving Dean when Dean seems to have giving up.
Hard to know!!! I've tried to stop making sense of it all. Far too many inconsistencies. I will tell you though, there's far worse to come. I think the bro angst is only just beginning.../o\ Thanks for sharing your thought. I always love hearing opposite reactions because it makes me think of my own a little harder.
xx