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I fucking ADORED that episode. I cried (real tears!) for the first time in ages. I realise that's because I am Sam sympathetic (I've decided not to call myself a Sam!girl because I fucking adore Dean too, but I DO sympathise with Sam massively) and that episode spoke to me on levels I can't render into words at the moment.

I have so much I want to say about that ep (about Dean's characterisation, Sam's headspace, Sully and other important stuff) but I can't at the moment. But I will - at some point.

In short - great acting, directing and script. So much heart and soul poured into it all.

Date: 2015-12-03 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
It was a good un! ♥

Date: 2015-12-03 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Indeed!

Date: 2015-12-03 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] daisychains1957
Great ep, best so far this season :)

Date: 2015-12-03 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I would have to agree! Though there's been quite a few I've loved this season. :)

Date: 2015-12-03 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddyclothes.livejournal.com
Both Edlund and the Great God KRIPKE loved it!!

My first rewatch of the season, besides "Baby".

Date: 2015-12-03 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Yay! That's awesome. I saw Kripke's tweet. I loved that he felt it captured the boys. :)

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Date: 2015-12-03 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassiopeia7.livejournal.com
Agreed, 100%!

I will - at some point.

*lurks in wait*

Date: 2015-12-03 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
haha…I hope to later today…;)

Date: 2015-12-03 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debbiel66.livejournal.com
It was awesome, and Jared somehow looked like he was 9 years old throughout the episode - hard to do when you're 6'100" and all.

The goofiness felt earned and somehow true to the entire run of the show, and despite being a Colin Ford fan, I really loved the dorky exuberance of this little Sam.

Is it just me, or is season 11 turning out to be...kind of...good?

Date: 2015-12-03 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harrigan.livejournal.com
* likes* ♥

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Date: 2015-12-03 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chomaisky.livejournal.com
For me it's the best episode in three seasons. I also love all the work that went into creature design.

Date: 2015-12-03 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Yep. Right up there as a fave for me for many years. Why did it take so long to give us something about Sam?! This was a lovely exploration of his fear and how he works out what he feels he *needs* to do.

Date: 2015-12-03 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
You know what's super awkward? Talking about families that shower together when you're standing next to your brother. Just saying, Dean! :D :D

Date: 2015-12-03 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Haha! Yes! Actually, there were some great one liners. And Dean doing the angry bath robe tie. Hilarious! I actually enjoyed Dean a lot this episode - especially his realisation at the end.

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Date: 2015-12-03 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sam-dean-lover.livejournal.com
i had problems with the episode, i did like some scenes Sam and Sully scenes, but there were more problems in it that override the good

Date: 2015-12-03 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear that. But I know every one reacts differently to episodes. ;)

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Date: 2015-12-03 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficwriter1966.livejournal.com
It didn't work for me. There were some good moments, but there was too much that threw me out of the story.
- Kids who look like they've 10 years old, playing with imaginary friends. Isn't the "imaginary friend" stage around 4-ish?
- John and Dean leaving Sam (who had just learned that monsters were real a few months prior) ALONE.
- A 20-year-old actor playing 13-year-old Dean (when 2 years ago he played 16-year-old Dean).
- The kid who played Sam looks nothing like Colin Ford, the established Young Sam.

I did like the actor who played Sully and his interaction with the boys. Loved the boys in their "Bert and Ernie" sweaters, Dean's reaction to the mermaid, and his response to Sam's loneliness.

Was this the high point of S11? Not for me. I thought "Baby" was terrific, worthy of many re-watches, but not this one.

Date: 2015-12-03 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Hey there. I'm sorry to hear it didn't work for you, but I know we all react differently to episodes.

I also accept those issues. I thought Sam was too young for an imaginary friend - but given the context I let that wash over me.

But totally agree about young Dean! Such a shame actors have to grow up. Clearly they still wanted to use him, but he's getting out of the age range. I still think he did a great job of portraying Dean - but yeah. Too old.

I really liked the kid playing Sam. I mean yeah, he's no Colin and Colin is a very hard act to follow, but I thought the casting was solid. He had the right yeps and emotion. I credit that to Dick for the directing. But I know this young!Sam didn't work for many.

Sully was awesomesauce and it would be wonderful to see him back. He worked so well with both Jared and Jensen. Such a lovely character too.

Baby would be a high point for me only it felt like a stand alone and not part of the current SPN 'verse. In that - it almost felt like an alternate reality. It shouldn't have done, but as we were seeing quite a lot of "Jared and Jensen" and not SamnDean, it didn't feel "real" (weird way of putting it I know). I definitely put it on my re-watch list!

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Date: 2015-12-03 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thursdaysisters.livejournal.com
Sam killed me. This is probably the scariest undertaking he's ever considered since he knows EXACTLY what's in store for him.

Date: 2015-12-03 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
*nods* His fear was palpable. So wonderful they're allowing us to see it.

Date: 2015-12-03 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madebyme-x.livejournal.com
Loved loved loved it! I especially adored how one minute I laughing and then in the blink of an eye, it suddenly wasn't so funny anymore, and I was tearing up with feels.

I loved how Sam opened up to Sully about the cage, that whole scene really made me think about the magnitude of what this means to Sam, about what 'God' is telling Sam to do. I want Sully back. I might need him to come back for Sam. Come back Sully!!!

I think Richard did a wonderful job, and I hope he comes back for more.

\o/ I love to love you Show!!!

Date: 2015-12-04 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Exactly! So full of love! (I'm re-watching it right this minute! \o/)

And it would be great to see Sully back. :)

Date: 2015-12-04 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casey28.livejournal.com
I loved it! It's amazing to finally get a Sam-centric ep.

I have so much I want to say about that ep

Yay, can't wait to read it. :)

Date: 2015-12-04 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Indeed! How long have we been waiting?!

I'm trying to get my thoughts together now (re-watching…*g*)

Date: 2015-12-04 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amypond45.livejournal.com
Wow, this episode was weird. But I used up half a box of tissues before it was over and another during the day as I kept thinking about it, so that must be worth somethng!

All the incest innuendo...I'm still pretty new to this fandom, so I'm a little innocent in this regard, but didn't the references feel a little intense? The family shower joke, yeah, but also the Bert & Ernie reference? Didn't Dean already mention that B&E are gay? So, D&S are presenting as a gay couple in this ep? Okay, I guess, but obviously this is a cover they're pretty used to.

This whole ep felt more like something out of Season 1 (Bugs!) Again, is this a conscious choice?

Date: 2015-12-04 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I cried! And laughed - some of it was hilarious. But also so sad….:(

The wincest stuff was fun. :) I have no idea if it's deliberate but I gotta think they know what they're doing…;)

A lot of the eps have had a S1 feel about them lately. I would like to think that's been deliberate. :)

Date: 2015-12-04 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tebtosca.livejournal.com
Sam's plan is stupid and going to make things worse and Dean will end up being right and Sam will be wrong (whispers: S4 redux), so the magical friend with the rainbow suspenders enabling the stupid plan isn't really helping anyone, ya dig? lol

Date: 2015-12-04 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Yeah. I can dig it, but in all honesty what they are going to do with it all in the future can't spoil this episode for me. I have absolutely no doubt it will all go to shit soon, but I just HAVE to enjoy it while I can. And getting Sam POV is still making me feel like I'm dreaming. The thing is, if they are going to make Sam do something stupid at least we're getting something about where his head is at (which we've been lacking for so damn long). At least they're not just making us guess why he might make a choice to return to the pit (and I do have issues with this - but I'll write that out when I do the review). And actually, aside from not understanding why Sam feel like he has to even go back to the pit (or how), Dean constantly shutting him down about his visions, fears and plans is making it more obvious why he might go and do that. Which, again, is more context than we've been given in the past about anything Sam does (other than the blood drinking. They made that pretty clear).

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Date: 2015-12-04 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greyowl88.livejournal.com
What a weird and wonderful episode this was! :D

Date: 2015-12-04 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
\o/!! I so much love for it. :))

Date: 2015-12-04 10:28 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] el1ie.livejournal.com
I really enjoyed this one. Thing is with me, engage my attention, engage my feelings and I'm going to give you a hell of a leeway with any problems.

Everyone gave 1000% here, RS did one hell of a job with the directing, it could have been pretty hammy, but instead it really reached out and gave a whole new level of understanding of all his characters and the clever filming and editing was a joy to watch. Sully and his friends were instantly loveable and amongst the horror of their lives how great it is to know there is still something out there that isn't going to rip your head off, although they did manage to rip my heart out just a little.

Even the experienced hunters not knowing who these creatures were was totally believable and I hope to see more of this kind of thing rather than sudden back doors into purgatory and hell. The brothers don't exist in a time bubble, so using their past experiences to build stories on agrees with me, makes them real, but only when it's done well and organically.

It was nice to have a storyline that focused on their leads but still gave side characters a good chunk of the action, there's definitely a better vibe between the brothers this season, I feel more settled because of that, I know you've had trouble with some of the banter being rather on the cruel side, but it hasn't been like that for me, although some of the old arguments are still there, gone is the vitriolic spite that used to be behind it, for me they're back to having each other's backs and I hope this continues. I can forgive their destroying the world to save each other when it comes from a place of love and protection and their screwed up lives.

Date: 2015-12-05 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runedgirl.livejournal.com
What you said! :)

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Date: 2015-12-04 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elsewhere91.livejournal.com
Loved this episode!

Date: 2015-12-05 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I'm right there with you! :)

Date: 2015-12-04 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zebra363.livejournal.com
I always give an episode bonus points when the supernatural element is interesting, and I loved the not-so-imaginary friends! The unicorn with its glitter blood made me laugh. I loved Sully telling Sam he was a hero, and Sam was heart-wrenching when he talked about perhaps having to go back into the Cage. The new Young Sam was a little too far removed in looks from Colin Ford for me, but I thought he did a good job.

Date: 2015-12-05 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Yes yes yes. All yes! yay show! :)

Date: 2015-12-04 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessm78.livejournal.com
ME TOO. I have to admit that at first, it was a bit hard for me to take Sully and the other Sannas seriously, but about halfway through the episode that totally changed. Jared knocked it out of the park. Actually, everyone did a great job.

The end (combined with the promo for next week's) did have me freaking out a bit, but I won't say anything about that yet either. Heh...

Date: 2015-12-05 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I think that's what made the characters so interesting. They could have been clowns, but the writing and directing meant they had much more soul. Jared was amazing. I thought all the acting was perfect in this one.

I've seen some screen caps of the next ep and I am a little worried (mostly with were it's going and the writers who are doing it). But I'll wait and see what happens before I get too worried. :)

Date: 2015-12-05 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runedgirl.livejournal.com
Can I just say that I'm so excited to see YOU so excited??? I'm bouncing I'm so happy about other people being happy about Show :)

I really liked it too - there were bits that didn't strike exactly right for me, but they were overshadowed by the many things that were absolutely awesome. Jared, Jensen and Nate were all stupendous. :)

Date: 2015-12-05 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Haha! I'm excited to be excited! I honestly didn't think we'd ever get Sam centric ep in Carver's reign- especially one that was so full of heart and soul. :) So thrilled with it. I hope they find a way to bring Sully back.

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