Something I'm curious about…(S11)

[ash48]

I was going to tweet this, but then remembered twitter is awful for conversations. Or even just making a potentially controversial statement.

So I'll put it in my fave place to post stuff. :)



I'm seeing a lot comments around the place that having Lucifer out of the cage disregards (whitewashes, demeans, trivialises etc) Sam's story line in S5. That the current storyline means that everything Sam did back then was for nothing.

I'm not clear why this is the sentiment? Nothing changes about what happened in the past. That will always be part of his storyline - and he'll always be the character that did that.

Lucifer being out now is merely a current storyline for the show. I totally accept that people are not liking it (for many various reasons), but what's happening now seems to be in conjunction to what happened back then - not totally aside from it (?).

I'm not asking whether it's a "good" storyline (I know there will be a heap of different reactions to that kind of question *g*) but simply asking why Sam's past storyline has diminished because of the current one?


(Note: This shouldn't need to be stated - because I think you guys know me well enough by now - but I'm not asking this to pick a fight. I am genuinely curious. Perhaps I am missing something that many others are seeing?).

Comments

[cuddyclothes.livejournal.com]

Count me among those that believe this storyline cheapens Sam's sacrifice. He saved the world and prevented the Apocalypse. The Amara storyline is BS to me (not helped by the fact that she talks like a snarky sitcom character). Suddenly having witchcraft strong enough to lift Lucifer out of hell devalues everything we went through S1-5.

Now? No big, Lucifer can jump into Cas. Sam was his one true vessel. You can argue that Cas can contain Lucifer, but why does this even have to be an issue? For me this season it's the standalones that do it for me, that have as little as possible to do with Amara and Lucifer. Plus, it's painful to watch Misha's acting.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Consider yourself counted in! It's been quite the mixed bag in the reactions. Both reactions have made sense to me.

Jury is out n terms of Amara. I'll have to see where that goes before I know. If she goes the way of Eve, Rowena or Abaddon then I'll be calling BS too. But in all honesty - what are they going to be able to do? there will be some undiscovered magic that will "kill" her and that will be that. I dunno. I'd love them to do something remarkable - but even then, I don't know what that would be.

Yay stand alones! They have been the best so far. :)