11.18 reaction.

[ash48]

Short and (not so) sweet.



On the positive side, I liked the scene inside Cas's head (I can't believe what a relief it was to see Misha playing Cas again) and it's always great to see Mark. :)

On first viewing I didn't like Sam and Dean bickering over what to do with Cas but on second viewing (yes, I watched it twice because I hated it so much the first time - I needed to give it another chance and I have to say on second viewing I felt a little better about it. Not great, but better), it makes some sense that Sam would defend Cas's right to choose his course of action (even though I can't understand why Cas took on Lucifer to fight and yet we see him totally disinterested in fighting *shrugs*). Sam knows about choice and having it taken away from yhim. I suppose the argument is that when someone makes a "bad" choice it should be overridden, but I'm glad to see Sam acknowledge it (and time choice is mentioned I'm happy about it). Though, even after 2 viewings I'm not really sure what their final conversation meant. I think it's that if one of them (including Cas) makes a bad choice it can be disregarded. I think? They made a pact about that earlier? Or just then? I iz confused!

Seeing Rowena back didn't surprise me at all. In fact, I had so much eye-roll it was probably the thing that put me in a bad mood for the rest of the ep (*ugh* a spell in her leg). Death means nothing so it doesn't really hold a threat (well, unless it's handled like last week's episode).

Lucifer is God's the first son? I thought that was Michael? Or is age irrelevant when you're an archangel? In other words - a screw up that was missed by, well, everyone on the team.

I was pissed that it made Sam seem as though he doesn't care for Cas at all. With all Dean's (and only Dean's) "CAAASSS!" pleads and Sam pretty much being ignored by both Lucifer (clearly no long his plaything) and Cas ("I saw Dean" "Dean wants me to expel him?" - Well duh Cas. No he wants you to sit on your thumbs and let Lucifer and Amara burn the world), Sam was easily sidelined (though nice exorcism there Sam!).

The myth arc has totally lost me. There's little to no tension (I just wasn't feeling any urgency from any of them. But, I accept that was probably me projecting). There are some writers who can pull of good myth arc eps, but not these two. I just don't get why they give Buckner/Ross-Leeming these big eps. Maybe no one else wants them? It makes me worry for the finale. There will be a resolution (of sorts) of all this stuff and as I really don't care what happens. I fear I will be left non-plussed - again.

But! There's been more good than bad this season so I can happily let it go. I always hope that they will surprise us (which I know they are capable of!) so I'll hang on to that. *g*

Comments

[madebyme-x.livejournal.com]

After all the excitement and sheer joy of last weeks episode, I was prepared to not like this as much, and while it wasn't a wonderful episode, it wasn't all bad either.

I wanted to get back to the myth arc, I wanted to know what Amara was doing, what she planning, and I think the whole story-line needed moving on a bit, which it did, and quickly, we covered a lot of ground and I'd rather they did that then drag it out little by little!!! (maybe I prefer my myth arc eps and stand alone completely separate?)

As for the ending with the boys, I took it as linking back to 11.01, with them not wanting to rewrite the same mistakes and making some changes. It seems like they're (mostly) being honest with each other, and I took it that they're going to let each other make their own choices and try to be supportive of each other rather than get in the way and cause trouble. I could be wrong, I watched this scene a few times to try and understand it, it wasn't clear.

I liked how they've added a twist and sort of said already that Lucifer can't kill Amara with a hand of god, I also liked all the changing sides and allies with Rowena, Lucifer and Crowley, I loved seeing Mark P and seeing inside Cas's head. It moved quickly, and I'm left having no idea where the finale will end. Is God the only one who can stop Amara? Are we going to see Him? Can you stuff Lucifer and Amara in the Empty? What about Dean and Amara connection? Is Sam going to have step up and save Dean from Amara?

Like you say, a few missteps (Lucifer being the first son? A death curing scar?) but I liked that we made progress, that it complicated the myth arc, and that I truly don't know where we're heading. Take care :)

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Hey! I love hearing all the positive things about the episode. I must confess I didn't think at first there was any progress made - but now you have listed them I can see some things did happen. Mostly, we know how powerful Amara is and the Lucifer can't kill Amara. It also laid the groundwork for Dean probably being the "chosen" one probably - which means he'll have to find a way to kill Amara, which, by all accounts he can't. I suppose as long as both of them are involved in her demise I'll be happy. :)

I'm sure all those lovely questions will be answered by the end!! (Man, I hope so *g*)