11.18 reaction.

[ash48]

Short and (not so) sweet.



On the positive side, I liked the scene inside Cas's head (I can't believe what a relief it was to see Misha playing Cas again) and it's always great to see Mark. :)

On first viewing I didn't like Sam and Dean bickering over what to do with Cas but on second viewing (yes, I watched it twice because I hated it so much the first time - I needed to give it another chance and I have to say on second viewing I felt a little better about it. Not great, but better), it makes some sense that Sam would defend Cas's right to choose his course of action (even though I can't understand why Cas took on Lucifer to fight and yet we see him totally disinterested in fighting *shrugs*). Sam knows about choice and having it taken away from yhim. I suppose the argument is that when someone makes a "bad" choice it should be overridden, but I'm glad to see Sam acknowledge it (and time choice is mentioned I'm happy about it). Though, even after 2 viewings I'm not really sure what their final conversation meant. I think it's that if one of them (including Cas) makes a bad choice it can be disregarded. I think? They made a pact about that earlier? Or just then? I iz confused!

Seeing Rowena back didn't surprise me at all. In fact, I had so much eye-roll it was probably the thing that put me in a bad mood for the rest of the ep (*ugh* a spell in her leg). Death means nothing so it doesn't really hold a threat (well, unless it's handled like last week's episode).

Lucifer is God's the first son? I thought that was Michael? Or is age irrelevant when you're an archangel? In other words - a screw up that was missed by, well, everyone on the team.

I was pissed that it made Sam seem as though he doesn't care for Cas at all. With all Dean's (and only Dean's) "CAAASSS!" pleads and Sam pretty much being ignored by both Lucifer (clearly no long his plaything) and Cas ("I saw Dean" "Dean wants me to expel him?" - Well duh Cas. No he wants you to sit on your thumbs and let Lucifer and Amara burn the world), Sam was easily sidelined (though nice exorcism there Sam!).

The myth arc has totally lost me. There's little to no tension (I just wasn't feeling any urgency from any of them. But, I accept that was probably me projecting). There are some writers who can pull of good myth arc eps, but not these two. I just don't get why they give Buckner/Ross-Leeming these big eps. Maybe no one else wants them? It makes me worry for the finale. There will be a resolution (of sorts) of all this stuff and as I really don't care what happens. I fear I will be left non-plussed - again.

But! There's been more good than bad this season so I can happily let it go. I always hope that they will surprise us (which I know they are capable of!) so I'll hang on to that. *g*

Comments

[reggie11.livejournal.com]

I quite enjoyed this episode. Although there were things that did annoy the hell out of me such as the holy oil only being able to hold an archangel for a few minutes...hello, Gabriel? And the fact that it looks like they're trying to actively make half of fandom hate Sam more. I knew what Sam meant; that Jimmy's body (the vessel) is not actually Castiel and therefore expendable to save the world, a lot of people will see it as Sam not giving a rat's arse if Cas lives or dies which I don't think is true at all.

I loved seeing Rowena back, and the spell kind of made sense to me, she is a witch after all. I'm glad she's back, she's the character I love to hate.

For the first time since Misha started playing Lucifer it didn't make me grind my teeth due to his overacting. I think he actually did pretty well for a change. Although having Mark there did highlight how Mark runs rings around Misha in the Lucifer dept. Catiel's apathy was a bit...odd. The only thing I can think of is that Lucifer has done something to him.

The BIGGEST thing I took away from this episode was the almost anvilish line from Dean regarding the hand of God weapon needing to be wielded by God's chosen. It's now so obvious that the ONLY person who can use one of these weapons against Amara is Dean himself. We know from all the way back to the original apocalypse arc that Dean was heaven's chosen one. The vessel meant for Michael to defeat Lucifer on behalf of God and Heaven. I'd say the final fight will be Dean and Amara which is going to be very interesting as we know he can't fight against her. I'm very interested to see how they resolve that!!

Oh BTW, they screwed up canon AGAIN with the Lucifer being God's first son. It's canon that Michael is. This from S5E13: Michael: Lucifer defied our father, and he betrayed me, but still, I don't want this any more than you would want to kill Sam. You know, my brother... I practically raised him. I took care of him in a way most people could never understand, and I still love him. But I am going to kill him, because it is right, and I have to. And from S5E22 MICHAEL/ADAM: You know, you haven't changed a bit, little brother. Always blaming everybody but yourself. We were together. We were happy. But you betrayed me -- all of us -- and you made our father leave.

Would it kill the writer's to use Superwiki? lol

[ash48.livejournal.com]

And the fact that it looks like they're trying to actively make half of fandom hate Sam more.

There are some that actively hate Sam no matter what he does and it's stuff like this that give them even more ammo to hate him with (especially if it's "look he wants Cas dead" - which wasn't at all what this was about).

It's now so obvious that the ONLY person who can use one of these weapons against Amara is Dean himself.

Yep. It's definitely where it's heading. Dean says that he can't do the dead but looks like he'll have to. The thing I think I am interested in at the moment it what part "the empty" will play. It will either be a place Amara may end up or one of the boys. Or, it may never be mentioned again.

Would it kill the writer's to use Superwiki?

There is SO much canon around Lucifer and Michael (a whole season dedicated to it!) so I just wonder what on earth was going on there. Surely they couldn't have made such an obvious mistake. Even Misha was around during that time and would remember some of that (being in that scene). It's what makes me worry about how they are going to resolve it all. But then again, I'm not longer really worry about those things - too much letting down over the last few years.

Still, I've really enjoyed this season and Sam has been written better than he's been in ages. :))