Heads up..

[ash48]

There's a poll re the recent FB/Twitter feature.

HERE

Will LJ listen? I suppose if enough people make their feelings known they might. They'd be wise to I reckon.

There's are lot of discontent being voiced on their announcement post also.

This link is also interesting. This shows how it could work.

Comments

[amnisias.livejournal.com]

Maybe I am misunderstanding what LJ is proposing, but this will just show others people's comments, not my post, on their twitter, will it?

If that's the case I consider it more an issue of civic responsibility rather than corporate responsibility. If people are so inclined they already can cut & paste/copy/retype anything they have access to to wherever they want to, including my locked posts. I trust the people on my flist not to do that. So the fact that LJ's new feature will make it easier for them to do so doesn't really bother me too much, I am still trusting people not to do anything to breach my confidentiality.

Having said that, I really can't see the point of anybody wanting to crosspost to twitter or facebook, but then I don't really get the point of twitter itself.

If I am missing something (I haven't really read much about this apart from all these posts saying "Don't do it or I'll defriend you", that poll post was the first to actually provide a link to somewhere where they explain what's being proposed.

[el1ie.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the poll, have filled it in.

It's the comments thing I'm against - if people want to cross post their own original posts then there nothing much I can do about it, but to actually cross post replies that are made in my journal or TO me in anyone else's journal or community that might include a quote by me and therefore spreading MY lj username all over Facebook and Twitter? NO.

I have asked, like nearly everyone else I know, that anyone posting in my journal does not cross post to Facebook and I totally trust my flist not to do that. But I'm not stepping foot in an open journal or community until this shit gets sorted.

Posted in the announcement post last night - I'm just so infuriated by this.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

I think there's a few issues people are concerned about. Namely that someone can respond to someone's post and cross post it to FB or Twitter. Which, yeah - no idea why anyone would want to do that but there are some nasty sorts of things that go on and it would be a malicious way for someone to "expose" someone on LJ if they chose to.

Initially I thought it just meant if I posted something on LJ I could cross post it easily on FB (which, ok, I can see how that might be handy for some people), but it seems that even comments to locked posts can be posted.

That's my understanding.

For me it's more about the infiltration of FB and Twitter into LJ. I know it can be turned off - which I will be doing, but why does everything have to be connected to those to sites? As you say, if people want to cross post it's just a matter of cutting and pasting anyway.

It's a privacy issue as well. Just that it's so easy to cross post makes people nervous I think. Lots of people do stuff on LJ they really don't want anyone in the RL to see.

That's my take on it anyway.

(I don't mind the ping back idea though. If someone links, say, a vid on mine on their journal it will notify me. I have no problem with people sharing my vids around LJ).

I think I've understood it all correctly.

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[ash48.livejournal.com]

I think that poll and announcement gives a pretty good indication that it's not very popular.

And I equally have no issue if people want to cross post their own stuff to their social networking pages. I figure they probably do that anyway if they wanted to.

I just don't see LJ being anything like FB or Twitter. Each site has their own purposes. I have nothing against any of these sites. In fact I reckon they can be great fun, but I know a lot of peeps do stuff on LJ that they would prefer to keep hidden from their RL. And this just raises the potential of being found out. Plus... surely we need to have a say about where our comments should and should not be seen.

And good point about communities. This whole thing is a minefield I think.

xx

[el1ie.livejournal.com]

Communities do bother me, even locked community posts, while not divulging the actual content of the post will still give out the address and username of the community and the reply would probably make it obvious what the post was about.

I've stuck something in the suggestion box over at spn_sceneit, which as about the only comm I post in regularly to ask if I can request that anyone getting clips off me makes sure they have the feature turned OFF before replying to me, I know I can't do anything to make them, but neither do I want my username flashed all over Facebook as someone who will clip - and I love doing those clips for people, I know it helps them out with their vids, but if they have the feature on for themselves they just might not realise how compromising it is for others.

Hope they just turn if off on all reply comments, I really don't see the need for it.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Hmm... is there something we (as in the mods) can do at sceneit to ensure this can happen? We are about to post a reminder about a few things, would you like us to add a note about turning the feature off when replying to clip requests?

Is it something the comm can do? I'm not so technical about this stuff but if we can make it safer for people posting then we'll do whatever we can.

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[el1ie.livejournal.com]

At this time, with everything up in the air and changing, I don't think there's much you can do. The comm can't turn the feature on or off it's up to the individual poster.

A general post pointing out the problems with the feature being enabled when replying to locked posts would help I'm sure in the short term and long term in reassuring us posters that we're as safe as we can possibly be, I'm sure a lot who think the feature is a good idea haven't really thought it through for what it might entail for others.

I'm not even sure if the automatic feature is available on flocked posts or whether it's still an extra choice you have to make, but it would certainly help for the comm itself to ask posters not to cross replies and if it's ok with you guys I think for a while I would ask again on each of my clip posts - until things are more sorted, just to feel safe you know?

Thanks hon, thanks very much.

[greyowl88.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the info. I checked it all out and I don't like it. The poll makes it quite obvious that nearly nobody likes it...

Here's a link to someone who tested it.
http://heatherface.livejournal.com/1097369.html
It shows that they can't see the post, only the comment. But if it is a locked post and the comment refers to what is being said in the post (like: I'm so sorry your Grandma died.) Not cool.
They also can see the LJ user name. I know a lot of people don't want that to go around.

So yea, sucky idea the whole thing.

xx

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Thanks for this link honey. I think is exactly what people have been worried about. And it's good to see proof. :)

I used to connect my YT account to my LJ and realised that that wasn't such a good idea. I mean, I don't really have a lot to hide. My family (as in sisters and parents) know what I do (even the porn reading!), but I would hate for my students to somehow come across it. And the more stuff is "out there" the more chances there are.

Thanks babe. <3

ETA: Hope you don't mind me adding this link to the post. xx

[ash48.livejournal.com]

That won't be a problem at all. :)

I will talk to the other mods and see if we can make a post about it.

Cheers hon.
xx

[greyowl88.livejournal.com]

ETA: Hope you don't mind me adding this link to the post. xx

Not at all. That's why I put it here, for everybody to see. It was posted as a comment to the poll. Glad I could add some further info on this. :)