A question...
Aug. 12th, 2011 08:42 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
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bythedamned and I posted figures and meta on deaths of males and females on Supernatural. It generated some healthy discussion and some interesting questions.
One thing that came up a few times, was that how many men or women died isn't as important as HOW they died.
The question is: What is critical or important about the way the characters die? My assumption is that male characters die differently to female characters and therefore there's an imbalance, or maybe there's bias toward one sex over the other (?). My further assumption is that women's deaths are more sexualised then men (deduced by the various comments made). IF this is true what is considered a "sexualised" death? What they are wearing when they die? Their position when they die? Who kills them? Does penetration with a knife symbolise sexual penetration? etc.
Deep I know (and damned heavy! sorry about that..), but I am genuinely curious. Maybe there's meta out there already on this? If not.... ;)
(if anyone looked at the past dozen posts of mine they'd swear I was ADD or something.../o\)
A while ago
bythedamned and I posted figures and meta on deaths of males and females on Supernatural. It generated some healthy discussion and some interesting questions. One thing that came up a few times, was that how many men or women died isn't as important as HOW they died.
The question is: What is critical or important about the way the characters die? My assumption is that male characters die differently to female characters and therefore there's an imbalance, or maybe there's bias toward one sex over the other (?). My further assumption is that women's deaths are more sexualised then men (deduced by the various comments made). IF this is true what is considered a "sexualised" death? What they are wearing when they die? Their position when they die? Who kills them? Does penetration with a knife symbolise sexual penetration? etc.
Deep I know (and damned heavy! sorry about that..), but I am genuinely curious. Maybe there's meta out there already on this? If not.... ;)
(if anyone looked at the past dozen posts of mine they'd swear I was ADD or something.../o\)
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Date: 2011-08-13 03:06 pm (UTC)Woot!
Essentially... yes. The boys experience many more sexualised situations than probably all of the other men and women on the show combined. (
Just look at Meg possessing Sam in Born Under a Bad Sign. I know Jo is seen as the victim here (which she was) but so was Sam. Not only possessed but having to carry out those actions... and worse. Or when Meg taunts Sam in Shadow, or the vamp kisses Dean in Dead Man's Blood. Lilith kissing Sam in No Rest for the Wicked..Dean having to kiss female demons to seal deals...
Damn it. Now I've become all thinky. I hadn't really considered all that until chatting about it here.
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Date: 2011-08-13 03:19 pm (UTC)Yeah, exactly. They are put in situations that carry sexual (and violent) overtones so often and sometimes worse or more direct than they've done or usually do with female characters, and as long as that holds true, I'm not going to complain about misogyny.
Damn it. Now I've become all thinky. I hadn't really considered all that until chatting about it here.
You're welcome. :P