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This has been haunting me. Of everything that was shown and said in 7.01 this, for me, was the most unsettling.



Lucifer saying..."Hi, Sam - long time no spooning".

It's seems like such a strange thing to say, but wow... what a thing to say.

Spooning, to me, is an act of comfort and security. It's one of my most fav things. To wrap up, or be wrapped in, someone you love and care about.

It's why I actually had trouble understanding what he said at first. Spooning? But that's so personal and...

Oh.


My initial image was of Lucifer spooning Sam. The thing I find so unsettling about Lucifer wrapping himself around Sam is that it makes such a mockery of comfort and security. There's just something about that that makes me shiver.

It also puts them in bed together, which suggests a whole HEAP of things. I don't know if we were supposed to draw that conclusion (non con/rape) but I went there I have to say. The comment was just too pointed for me not to.

I then wondered if he may have been referring to this scene in Free to be You and Me, when he pretended to be Jessica. (?)



It's almost spooning. Not quite, but I wondered if he was, in fact, referring back the first time they made contact? When he was in bed with Sam, pretending to be Jessica.

I wonder how many times Lucifer pretened to be Jessica in the pit? Or Dean? Mary? John? Someone that Sam could gain comfort from...but ultimately didn't. *sniff*

It really brought home to me just how alone Sam actually was. And not just tortured. Comforted. I wonder if he came to rely on Lucifer for comfort in some twisted way? Or found the spooning/comfort the worst kind of torture?

I may be reaching a bit far here, but I do think the spooning comment was in reference to something that was occurring in the pit regularly.

And did you notice Sam's massive flinch in that scene? Spoke volumes of how damn terrified Sam was.

(there's gotta be fic out there on this.? The idea of Sam hurting and then being comforted by Lucifer.
OH SAM! :(( )

Date: 2011-09-29 11:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chemm80
I think it could be any or all of those things (and in fact have already read at least one fic in which Lucifer pretended to be Dean cuddling Sam and then turned it against him, cue Sammy PTSD memories where he can't have Dean touching him, etc.).

Or it could just be simply snark, Lucifer talking about how "close" they were in the cage, intimate in any number of ways that don't necessarily have anything to do with sex. Guess we'll see. ;)

Date: 2011-09-30 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I think the closeness in the cage is really interesting. I know the cage can be interpreted in many ways but for it to actually be a small, intimate cage is quite scary. So yeah.. they were quite literally on top of each other. Ack!

I like that interpretation - I always imagined it as being huge for some reason. It being really small is even scarier for some reason.

:(

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