Spoilers! Sort of...

[ash48]

So I'm home sick today. Well, more like I'm just poorly with a cold. I'm snuggled up in bed with hot tea and my computer and I suddenly had the urge to play "speculation".

There's been so many spoilery comments from the actors and crew around - especially on twitter or tumblr. They've left me very perplexed (and excited actually). They don't say "this is what actually happens"- they're more like....



They're more like actors saying things about the last 5 minutes like "the end made me cry", "they actually went there", "fans are going to freak out, it's chilling and disturbing","it changes the SPN landscape" and Jensen's: “The moment the screen goes to black. The last second. There are multiple characters involved. There’s a predicament now.” and Misha's: "I was definitely shocked. I thought, ‘Can they do this?’". I've also read there's a intense brother moment also.

I can't even with all that information! Mostly, I just can't imagine anything happening that will measure that level of "shocked and disturbing" (well, maybe if they do decide to of go the Wincest route. I figure that would be pretty shocking (and surprising!) and I'm sure some would consider it disturbing also. But nah, there's no way they'd go there).

I've always thought that one brother will kill the other. It makes sense of the story line (Cain and Able) and possibly ties into the opening episode. I figured that in order to "save" Dean, Sam will have to kill him. Or that Dean is so possessed that he kills Sam.

But that all seems to obvious and not nearly "landscape changing" enough. Death of a Winchester is almost formula for a season ender, so I don't think it fits the "we've never seen this before" comment from Jared.

We've already been to Heaven, Hell and Purgatory so them all being transported to a new dimension seems off the cards also.

I can't think of who could be introduced as a new big bad. Not sure what could top Lucifer rising. Though of course God making an appearance would probably top that (especially if he looked like John Winchester ;D).

Dean could turn demonic. But I don't think that would be a huge game changer. I mean, it would set up story lines for the beginning of S10, but ultimately he'd be back to Dean Dean so...yeah. Not sure what that would achieve (other than extra hot demon!Deanness).

That's really got me scratching my head.

I'm certainly more excited about the finale than I was - if only now to find out what on earth all those spoilery comments could be referring to.

Whatever happens it sounds like we're going to need to cling to each other.

Comments

[stormcloude]

Eh, I think Dean's going to turn into a demon. If they play it as him being the "big bad" even for a few episodes I could see how they'd call it a game changer. I mean they tried to sell Sam being possessed by an angel as something "never before seen on TV!!ELEVENTY!111"

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Demon!Dean makes some sense. Not exactly shocking - but if he does something horrid then it could very well be disturbing. I found some of last episode MoC!Dean disturbing, so it's not a far stretch. Though wow - pretty hard to take - especially if he does something that's hard to redeem (killing a child for example). If he kills Sam, it will be pretty heart wrenching - but not exactly irredeemable. I think? Though that won't do much for them building bridges in their relationship.

I think the "never seen before" is probably just referring to never seen on SPN. Though we've kind of seen demon!dean before (though maybe not fully).

i rather like the idea actually.

[stormcloude]

Well, the brothers have never been on opposite sides before at the end of a season. Neither has ever been a demon before either. But I don't seem them killing Sam, otherwise who is going to "save" Dean? Sam might have to "kill" Dean though, if he can't stop him any other way.

(And they were trying to sell Sam's possession by Gadreel as never before seen on TV. I remember that specifically in a Singer interview.)

[ash48.livejournal.com]

I was just pondering that below. Because even if Sam kills Dean (which is what I've always imagined will have to happen) the opening of S10 will be much the same as the opening of S9. Dean needing to be brought back somehow. And man, I don't think I could go through a repeat of the beginning of S8 with Sam doing nothing to find Dean. Might be the very last straw.

Hmmm, I'm hoping its something none of us have even imagined (which I find hard to believe actually...*g*)

[stormcloude]

Except demons don't die from regular bullets?


Yeah, if it does go this way, I will probably be completely done with the show. It's hard to have smart characters when you don't have smart writers. :/

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Oh. Just saw your eta. Oh. Were they saying never seen before on all of TV? Pretty big statement. Though weird because there's lots of angel possessions on SPN. Even before Gadreel.

[stormcloude]

Glad you seem to be feeling better. I hope all your SPN wishes come true. ;)

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Just feel tired mostly. As a teacher it's not a good look when trying to stand up in front of 27 7 and 8 year olds. Just couldn't face it today.

SPN chat is keeping me company. :))

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

How many shows could you say "If our lead character kills his brother, it will be pretty heart wrenching - but not exactly irredeemable."??? LOL!

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Haha! I know! Hee...I did mean in terms of the audience. I am sure if Dean kills Sam we'll find some way to forgive him (mainly because Sam is not a civilian), but if he killed a complete innocent I think it would be much harder for him to come back from. But yeah, only THIS show I'd say something like that. :) The audience have forgiven Dean pretty much completely for tricking Sam into the possession, so I figure we'll find a way to forgive Dean (now, whether Dean will forgive himself....).