Spoilers! Sort of...
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ash48So I'm home sick today. Well, more like I'm just poorly with a cold. I'm snuggled up in bed with hot tea and my computer and I suddenly had the urge to play "speculation".
There's been so many spoilery comments from the actors and crew around - especially on twitter or tumblr. They've left me very perplexed (and excited actually). They don't say "this is what actually happens"- they're more like....
They're more like actors saying things about the last 5 minutes like "the end made me cry", "they actually went there", "fans are going to freak out, it's chilling and disturbing","it changes the SPN landscape" and Jensen's: “The moment the screen goes to black. The last second. There are multiple characters involved. There’s a predicament now.” and Misha's: "I was definitely shocked. I thought, ‘Can they do this?’". I've also read there's a intense brother moment also.
I can't even with all that information! Mostly, I just can't imagine anything happening that will measure that level of "shocked and disturbing" (well, maybe if they do decide to of go the Wincest route. I figure that would be pretty shocking (and surprising!) and I'm sure some would consider it disturbing also. But nah, there's no way they'd go there).
I've always thought that one brother will kill the other. It makes sense of the story line (Cain and Able) and possibly ties into the opening episode. I figured that in order to "save" Dean, Sam will have to kill him. Or that Dean is so possessed that he kills Sam.
But that all seems to obvious and not nearly "landscape changing" enough. Death of a Winchester is almost formula for a season ender, so I don't think it fits the "we've never seen this before" comment from Jared.
We've already been to Heaven, Hell and Purgatory so them all being transported to a new dimension seems off the cards also.
I can't think of who could be introduced as a new big bad. Not sure what could top Lucifer rising. Though of course God making an appearance would probably top that (especially if he looked like John Winchester ;D).
Dean could turn demonic. But I don't think that would be a huge game changer. I mean, it would set up story lines for the beginning of S10, but ultimately he'd be back to Dean Dean so...yeah. Not sure what that would achieve (other than extra hot demon!Deanness).
That's really got me scratching my head.
I'm certainly more excited about the finale than I was - if only now to find out what on earth all those spoilery comments could be referring to.
Whatever happens it sounds like we're going to need to cling to each other.
There's been so many spoilery comments from the actors and crew around - especially on twitter or tumblr. They've left me very perplexed (and excited actually). They don't say "this is what actually happens"- they're more like....
They're more like actors saying things about the last 5 minutes like "the end made me cry", "they actually went there", "fans are going to freak out, it's chilling and disturbing","it changes the SPN landscape" and Jensen's: “The moment the screen goes to black. The last second. There are multiple characters involved. There’s a predicament now.” and Misha's: "I was definitely shocked. I thought, ‘Can they do this?’". I've also read there's a intense brother moment also.
I can't even with all that information! Mostly, I just can't imagine anything happening that will measure that level of "shocked and disturbing" (well, maybe if they do decide to of go the Wincest route. I figure that would be pretty shocking (and surprising!) and I'm sure some would consider it disturbing also. But nah, there's no way they'd go there).
I've always thought that one brother will kill the other. It makes sense of the story line (Cain and Able) and possibly ties into the opening episode. I figured that in order to "save" Dean, Sam will have to kill him. Or that Dean is so possessed that he kills Sam.
But that all seems to obvious and not nearly "landscape changing" enough. Death of a Winchester is almost formula for a season ender, so I don't think it fits the "we've never seen this before" comment from Jared.
We've already been to Heaven, Hell and Purgatory so them all being transported to a new dimension seems off the cards also.
I can't think of who could be introduced as a new big bad. Not sure what could top Lucifer rising. Though of course God making an appearance would probably top that (especially if he looked like John Winchester ;D).
Dean could turn demonic. But I don't think that would be a huge game changer. I mean, it would set up story lines for the beginning of S10, but ultimately he'd be back to Dean Dean so...yeah. Not sure what that would achieve (other than extra hot demon!Deanness).
That's really got me scratching my head.
I'm certainly more excited about the finale than I was - if only now to find out what on earth all those spoilery comments could be referring to.
Whatever happens it sounds like we're going to need to cling to each other.
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Date: 2014-05-19 05:13 am (UTC)I've heard a metric shit-ton of possibilities, or variations on a theme.
The popular guess is Dean's eyes flash demonic in the last second of the show, making at least the beginning of S10 the quest to restore him to human again. Not surprising.
Variables:
-Sam kills Dean (either in self-defense or to stop him from killing innocent pedestrians or Cas), or perhaps even Dean pleads with Sam to commit murder...save him from himself before he kills again.) And then the eye thing.
-Dean kills Sam, therefore fulfilling the Cain dealio. The eye thing happens, Dean does Demon, and Sam wakes up in the Veil. (With Kevin. \0/!) And from there, they must try to save Dean. This one gets my vote.
-Crowley, Dean's Ruby stand-in, becomes King of Hell (what with Abaddon's demise) and Dean becomes his First Hellknight. (Can be in conjunction with either of the above.)
-Sam allows Gadreel to possess him, in order to fight newly demonized Dean (and THIS is the "Surprise! Eyes!" thing Jensen was hinting at.) Highly unlikely scenario, but more novel. Doesn't particularly rank as a game-changer, though, and does NO justice to Sam's dangling character arc of forced possession...which at this rate, seems to be going the way of "I didn't look for Dean when he got vaporized; I am a bad brother but I don't know why. So we won't talk of it again. Good-bye."
-But what happens to Heaven and Metatron? Will Cas eat Gadreel's grace, or will Gadreel take over Jimmy? And then the fight for Heaven continues, possibly up there? Or will Crowley get super-greedy, and with Dean's help, go after Metatron to add Heaven to Hell's neighborhood?
-Dean and Cas kiss. The very most unlikely scenario in the history of ever.
And I'm sure I'll think of more tomorrow...
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Date: 2014-05-19 05:32 am (UTC)ha, but wow! There's some serious speculation about that. I honestly get all O_O each time I see the.."it's going to happen this season! It's actually going to happen. All the hints are pointing to it". It's as about likely as Sam and Dean kissing. Not least because...where the hell would that come from and where the hell do they go from there? Just on a story telling side of things it would make no sense. But, I can't take away anyones hope I suppose. And if it DID happen I can honestly say I would be shocked. And mirror Jensen's "They went there!".
All possible variables! :D
Dean's eyes flashing black (or red etc) seems to have been hinted at, but I'm just not sure how shocking or disturbing that would actually be. I don't think it could beat Dean's confessions that he tortured in hell and enjoyed it (in terms of Dean being really dark). Maybe Gadreel offers to possess Dean in order to fight the Mark? Nah...that don't make no sense either.
I like that Sam is compelled to save Dean from the very thing that Sam wasn't saved from - possession. Maybe even Dean begs for Sam to end it. Only problem with either of them dying is that it's been done before and we know there's no really drama there because they're not dead for good. I suspect that angst of one having to kill the other might be enough of a drama. Especially if we get an "I love you" out of it. :)))
There's been all this talk of the last 5 secs, but there's the other 41.55 that has to happen also. If it ends with the fight going on up there in heaven it will be much the same scenario as S7 (I think it was that one?) where Cas was always busy with heavenly things and had to keep dashing off. It would work because what are they going to do with Cas next season? Room with S&D and become the third brother?
oooh, speaking of third brothers...maybe Adam makes an appearance?!
Ark! So many possibilities. As long as it makes sense and they allow Sam to do something other than blend in with the wallpaper I will be pretty happy. :)) Happier if they manage to tie in 9.01 somehow.
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Date: 2014-05-19 04:20 pm (UTC)It seemed to me that even Misha was wary and weary of the topic at Asylum12, from most reports. But he's a nice guy, and he knows he can't tell someone how they should enjoy the show. To which, again, I agree! I just wish they'd stop shoving it at the show's writers and actors. It's starting to feel like children cajoling for candy, on the theory that if they push long enough, TPTB will get tired and give them what they want. Additionally, as a creative, I believe there's a limit to how much we should let the public force our creativity into the box it wants. I'm not saying SPN is the most creative of shows, but I firmly believe the creator has the right to tell the story they want to tell. No ass-kissing required.
And that is my rant for the day. The end! :D
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Date: 2014-05-19 03:46 pm (UTC)I've heard this speculation bandied about a few times and it's interesting, but hasn't Sam dying been overdone a little now? LOL. And I wonder how he'd be brought back this time. I just don't want a repeat of season 6 with "Oh look, Sam's back but something's wrong with him." And selfishly I don't want to see him stay dead ;)
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Date: 2014-05-19 03:56 pm (UTC)Okay, so Sam gets killed and goes Veil-hopping. One of the angels...Gadreel, probably, slips back into Sam's meat suit (for reasons, maybe the old vessel gets blown to smithereens or Gadreel gets homesick, I don't care), and then when Sam can return to the Prime Material Plane, Gadreel says "Hey, you can have your body back; I was just healing it and keeping it warm for you," and then Sam possesses himself.
Ta da! *cough*
/is silly
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Date: 2014-05-19 04:40 pm (UTC)