Spoilers! Sort of...
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ash48So I'm home sick today. Well, more like I'm just poorly with a cold. I'm snuggled up in bed with hot tea and my computer and I suddenly had the urge to play "speculation".
There's been so many spoilery comments from the actors and crew around - especially on twitter or tumblr. They've left me very perplexed (and excited actually). They don't say "this is what actually happens"- they're more like....
They're more like actors saying things about the last 5 minutes like "the end made me cry", "they actually went there", "fans are going to freak out, it's chilling and disturbing","it changes the SPN landscape" and Jensen's: “The moment the screen goes to black. The last second. There are multiple characters involved. There’s a predicament now.” and Misha's: "I was definitely shocked. I thought, ‘Can they do this?’". I've also read there's a intense brother moment also.
I can't even with all that information! Mostly, I just can't imagine anything happening that will measure that level of "shocked and disturbing" (well, maybe if they do decide to of go the Wincest route. I figure that would be pretty shocking (and surprising!) and I'm sure some would consider it disturbing also. But nah, there's no way they'd go there).
I've always thought that one brother will kill the other. It makes sense of the story line (Cain and Able) and possibly ties into the opening episode. I figured that in order to "save" Dean, Sam will have to kill him. Or that Dean is so possessed that he kills Sam.
But that all seems to obvious and not nearly "landscape changing" enough. Death of a Winchester is almost formula for a season ender, so I don't think it fits the "we've never seen this before" comment from Jared.
We've already been to Heaven, Hell and Purgatory so them all being transported to a new dimension seems off the cards also.
I can't think of who could be introduced as a new big bad. Not sure what could top Lucifer rising. Though of course God making an appearance would probably top that (especially if he looked like John Winchester ;D).
Dean could turn demonic. But I don't think that would be a huge game changer. I mean, it would set up story lines for the beginning of S10, but ultimately he'd be back to Dean Dean so...yeah. Not sure what that would achieve (other than extra hot demon!Deanness).
That's really got me scratching my head.
I'm certainly more excited about the finale than I was - if only now to find out what on earth all those spoilery comments could be referring to.
Whatever happens it sounds like we're going to need to cling to each other.
There's been so many spoilery comments from the actors and crew around - especially on twitter or tumblr. They've left me very perplexed (and excited actually). They don't say "this is what actually happens"- they're more like....
They're more like actors saying things about the last 5 minutes like "the end made me cry", "they actually went there", "fans are going to freak out, it's chilling and disturbing","it changes the SPN landscape" and Jensen's: “The moment the screen goes to black. The last second. There are multiple characters involved. There’s a predicament now.” and Misha's: "I was definitely shocked. I thought, ‘Can they do this?’". I've also read there's a intense brother moment also.
I can't even with all that information! Mostly, I just can't imagine anything happening that will measure that level of "shocked and disturbing" (well, maybe if they do decide to of go the Wincest route. I figure that would be pretty shocking (and surprising!) and I'm sure some would consider it disturbing also. But nah, there's no way they'd go there).
I've always thought that one brother will kill the other. It makes sense of the story line (Cain and Able) and possibly ties into the opening episode. I figured that in order to "save" Dean, Sam will have to kill him. Or that Dean is so possessed that he kills Sam.
But that all seems to obvious and not nearly "landscape changing" enough. Death of a Winchester is almost formula for a season ender, so I don't think it fits the "we've never seen this before" comment from Jared.
We've already been to Heaven, Hell and Purgatory so them all being transported to a new dimension seems off the cards also.
I can't think of who could be introduced as a new big bad. Not sure what could top Lucifer rising. Though of course God making an appearance would probably top that (especially if he looked like John Winchester ;D).
Dean could turn demonic. But I don't think that would be a huge game changer. I mean, it would set up story lines for the beginning of S10, but ultimately he'd be back to Dean Dean so...yeah. Not sure what that would achieve (other than extra hot demon!Deanness).
That's really got me scratching my head.
I'm certainly more excited about the finale than I was - if only now to find out what on earth all those spoilery comments could be referring to.
Whatever happens it sounds like we're going to need to cling to each other.
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Date: 2014-05-19 12:14 pm (UTC)I was about to say "surely there's nothing else" and then through that I'm sure there is.
I think they are just trying to amp up the tension to get good ratings for the last episode, which is perfectly understandable.
My feeling also. I'm sure they've been schooled in what they can and can't say. They do need to try and get as many people watching as possible so that's certainly one way to do it. I'm just worried that they've over sold it.
If one recalls how excited Jared was for the Sam/Amelia arc and how that turned out,
I actually can't recall how excited Jared was about that. In fact, I remember him keeping things pretty close to his chest and talking about how Sam wasn't going to be looking for his brother (and boy, I remember the discussions about that). In comparison his excitement for the opening of S9 was palpable. He was practically bouncing. So, I think he had an idea that the S8 storyline wasn't great for Sam. To be honest, I can't tell how genuine their responses are to the ending. I've only read those comments , not watched them.
Jensen said the last seconds affected multiple characters so that would mean not only S&D,
Yes. That's so curious. It makes sense of the "changing landscape" comment. Though I have no idea how they are going to achieve that. Other than re-setting. Or changing their characters completely somehow? Yikes.
I just get the feeling Carver isn't creative or plain good enough to come up with something really interesting.
Yes, not sure I have the confidence in him either. I am happy to be completely wrong though!
That's really all I want, no angels , no demons, just Sam and Dean on the road , saving people. Back to the origins.
That will be a long time off I think. I have a feeling that maybe, just maybe, when they know their last season they may just take them right back to their routes. In the meantime, they probably have to keep trying new things to shake it up - keep it different or something. I think S10 might seem them coming back together in a major way. If Carver does has the 3 year plan as I've heard he does, then S10 might be one of reconciliation.
We can but hope.
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Date: 2014-05-19 12:44 pm (UTC)I have a terrible memory but I think he said before season eight began that he was excited for the Amelia stuff, the fact of not looking wasn't addressed until later, and he did say he was certain Sam would have looked.
I'm sure he wasn't happy about 'not looking'.
I was serene enough when Carver took over, not that I had anything against Sera Gamble for I loved season six and seven, but the the fact that he threw poor Sammy to the dogs with the unexplained not-looking in season eight was when I began to dislike him and his ideas intensely, and now at the end of season nine nothing has changed.
Apart from the way he has treated the brothers and their bond, season eight and more so season nine have had no clear end-games.
There seems to be no co-ordination between one episode and another and each writer just throws in whatever he needs to flesh out his episode, with little respect for what has gone before or of the integrity of the characters of Sam and Dean.
I do hope after two years of experience Carver comes up with something better in season ten, and be able to at least map out a season arc that has a logical evolution.
I was so happy that Jensen said he had re-watched the Pilot and how he thought it had heart and that it would stand up fine in today's market. ( Maybe a little dig at the terrible Bloodlines?)
He didn't seem so taken with season nine and it comforts me to think that he too has nostalgia of the 'old days'.
Wouldn't it be great if he became show-runner. I'm sure we'd get hundreds of bro-moment then. :)