9.23 reaction

[ash48]

I had a huge reaction post written out but decided it was far too negative and started to make me cry so I decided not to post it.

I will say that I didn't mind watching the episode (made all the better because I had zebra363 with me) but in all honesty it left me feeling pretty much nothing. Empty. Blank. Perhaps a bit annoyed, frustrated and sad.

I love these characters too much to see them wasted like this. To have them at odds all season just so we can have "near" apology scenes and confessions of "I lied". :(

For a whole season to mean absolutely nothing. To have gone absolutely no where. *sobs* (and not the good *sobs* - only S8 and S9 have reduced me to tears over loss of the show I fell in love with).

I need more time to process. I'm sure I will shake these blues away and find something salvageable here.

Though I'm thinking until Carver leaves I'll never see the Sam and Dean I grew to love.

I'd say they've already created their spin off. We watched it this season.

(PS: please, if you loved it and want to squee please feel free. I need to know it's worth hanging on to. I need to know that this is just all part of a plan to build this show back to something we recognise. I need to know that they didn't make Sam say important stuff only to have it completely and utterly ignored for a reason. I need to know that this hasn't just become the worst, predictable, most boring, fan servicing pile of... )

Comments

[tebtosca.livejournal.com]

I will tell you why you are feeling nothing -- the Winchesters are no longer the heroes in this story, and their position as such as been completely usurped.

Most egregiously, as has been done all this season, Sam didn't get to do anything effective last night besides the initial finding of the trailer park. Gadreel ("friend"... REALLY?) had his completely unearned redemption arc moment, allowing our hero Cas to be the one who REALLY saved the day, AND took down Metatron, using brains instead of brawn (a direct contrast to Dean, our former hero's, epic failure)

Sam got knocked out for the main fight. He didn't get to Dean on time. He didn't gank Metatron fast enough when he was back to an angel. He didn't manage to stop Dean before he died. And, most of all, he didn't even get to be the one to offer a deal, because Crowley came in and literally took his version of the ABHL II monologue. So even his "I lied" was for naught, because he didn't get the chance to prove it either way.

And honestly? And you know how much I adore J2 but...they just didn't sell it last night. Compare it to last year's finale in the church, which was infinitely more emotional and visceral and, frankly, better-acted and written, whether you agree with the content of that scene or not. And you know why? Because it was about the two of them, and their history, good or bad. Not just a rehash of better scenes. *salutes Carver*

Note: for the record, my boyfriend was watching it, so it was either hide in my room or watch and see what y'all were talking about today lol. I'm personally a resounding ball of meh.

[etoile-etiolee.livejournal.com]

I enjoyed it. It's been a long time since I actually felt something watching a SPN episode, and I think Jared and Jensen made great performances. Maybe because this season -and the one before that were so crappy,I'm biaised, but I think it was a great finale. :)

[maaldas.livejournal.com]

Agree! I think we're the only ones who have a positive view towards the finale. The possibilities for season 10... I'm excited.

[etoile-etiolee.livejournal.com]

I totally embrace it. And we're not alone. I'm thinking of forming a club ;-)

[maaldas.livejournal.com]

Yes totally. I'm calling it The Knight of Hell reformed and I'm applying. Bwahahahaha...

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

"the Winchesters are no longer the heroes in this story, and their position as such as been completely usurped." I think this is where my problem lies, too. They have to be at the centre, or the show doesn't work.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

And here, I agree with you 100%. Each and every word. The more I think about it the more it sinks in that Sam and Dean did absolutely nothing. Oh sure, Dean died and Sam cried, but there was no urgency - no meaning to any of it. They were ineffectual and hero-less. Was it for a reason? Is this part of the over all story? I've given up hoping. :(

I am now thoroughly convinced that Carver not only doesn't really like these characters but he truly has no understanding of them, or their plight.

In my review that I didn't post I actually said that Cas, Gadreel and Crowley had the most significant character stories and growth this season. Sam and Dean were mere side characters who, well, ended up doing nothing. (and don't even get me started on Abaddon...)

And I fear with Dean as a demon we'll have even less character growth next season. Only he'll become the "plot point", instead of Sam.

xx

[jessm78.livejournal.com]

I am now thoroughly convinced that Carver not only doesn't really like these characters but he truly has no understanding of them, or their plight.

And this makes me really sad because previously he'd made me happy with episodes like A Very Supernatural Christmas. I don't know if something just happens between the time you write for a show and then become its showrunner... I am really starting to wonder this because it happened with another show I used to love (future showrunner wrote some very good early episodes, and then the show went to shit after he started running it).

Anyway sorry to jump in like that, I just had to comment because things like that make me pretty sad. :( You used to write some pretty good eps, Carver. WTF happened?!

[auntmo9.livejournal.com]

the Winchesters are no longer the heroes of this story and their position as such has been completely usurped

I couldn't agree more. And I don't see any heroes in this mess of a story right now either.

[cassiopeia7.livejournal.com]

the Winchesters are no longer the heroes in this story, and their position as such as been completely usurped

Pretty much this. SPN has turned into the Angel Show. Dean DIED, and we weren't even given the chance to mourn him with Sam before more dumb angel crap popped up.

[thursdaysisters.livejournal.com]

*clinks your wineglass* Spot fucking on teb

[cordelia-gray.livejournal.com]

Yes, exactly. Dean got to be the distraction: Sam didn't get to do anything at all. This is not the Winchester's story anymore. And I might even be ok with that, if I liked the story they were telling, but angels are boring, and Metatron is the worst.