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I had a huge reaction post written out but decided it was far too negative and started to make me cry so I decided not to post it.

I will say that I didn't mind watching the episode (made all the better because I had [livejournal.com profile] zebra363 with me) but in all honesty it left me feeling pretty much nothing. Empty. Blank. Perhaps a bit annoyed, frustrated and sad.

I love these characters too much to see them wasted like this. To have them at odds all season just so we can have "near" apology scenes and confessions of "I lied". :(

For a whole season to mean absolutely nothing. To have gone absolutely no where. *sobs* (and not the good *sobs* - only S8 and S9 have reduced me to tears over loss of the show I fell in love with).

I need more time to process. I'm sure I will shake these blues away and find something salvageable here.

Though I'm thinking until Carver leaves I'll never see the Sam and Dean I grew to love.

I'd say they've already created their spin off. We watched it this season.

(PS: please, if you loved it and want to squee please feel free. I need to know it's worth hanging on to. I need to know that this is just all part of a plan to build this show back to something we recognise. I need to know that they didn't make Sam say important stuff only to have it completely and utterly ignored for a reason. I need to know that this hasn't just become the worst, predictable, most boring, fan servicing pile of... )

Date: 2014-05-21 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kazluvsbooks.livejournal.com
This makes me sad,Ash.
I loved it.

I felt that this finale was all about the brothers.I really felt their connection and that they love each other..no matter what..

I agree that we didn't get much from Sam's point of view but when have we ever?

Certain moments will stay with me forever and i am looking forward to where Season 10 takes me..

Date: 2014-05-21 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
It makes me sad too. Like, really. But I've reached this point a few times since Carver took over. I've almost run out of sadness now because it's been building all season.

And I agree - there were lots of lovely brother moments - it;s just because they didn't amount to anything in terms of their relationship (no new understandings, no new growth, no appreciating what's happened before) that even those couldn't salvage it for me. I loved seeing them, don;t get me wrong. But having a reveal that Sam "lied" is equivalent to Sam confessing he loves Dean. We know that and have known it since the first episode. Now, if they touched on why he "lied" it might have meant something. But that was never the point.

I agree that we didn't get much from Sam's point of view but when have we ever?

Yeah. And it's all just too much for me now. There's only so much of Sam the cardboard cutout that I can take. Not to take away from Jared - he's done remarkably well with very little.

I think when and if they actually mend this relationship I will be able to look back and see how this season fits into the overall relationship arc. In the mean time I'll be left with wondering what exactly Dean was proud of. How they kept failing this season? Or maybe how they keep fighting even though they don't stop to actually think about the consequence of their actions.

But yay hun! I'm so happy it worked or you. And in fact, I know it worked for so many and I am truly happy about that. And maybe in a couple of weeks I will be able to look back and enjoy what we did get much more. In fact, I'm sure I will. :))

Date: 2014-05-21 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
I actually think Sam may have been the least cardboard character this particular episode. And here's the thing, ash--I don't exactly want a mended relationship for the guys, I just want them on equal footing.

I don't know exactly what Dean was proud of either, but I liked the line. Looking at it from Dean's POV, I think he was just proud that the Winchester brothers, such as they are, got as far as they did. It ain't easy being a Winchester.

But I do feel you, sweetie. I do!

Date: 2014-05-21 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Yeah, I agree we had more from Sam than we've done throughout the season. Like the last episode, I've tied my reaction to my feelings on the whole season, rather than just this episode.

I don't exactly want a mended relationship for the guys, I just want them on equal footing.

Oh definitely. But it still feels like they are so far from that. But maybe this was about bringing it back to some even footing? I dunno. I wish I could see what was achieved for them here - other than brother feels for the sake of brother feels (I am VERY happy we got that though. And now I'm seeing people actually *like* Sam again, so there is that. though people "forgiving" Sam is making my blood BOIL).

I loved the "I'm proud of us" line very much. It felt like his way of saying "I love you". And yes - I suspect it's about them just getting to the end. It is all about fighting the good fight for Dean. And I think if Dean dies in action that's a great way for him to go. Which is a nice twist, I suppose, on Sam being content to die in action in the last season. And now Dean is the very thing he fears (I think. It took him ages to admit not wanting the Mark), much like Sam was in the beginning of the episode. Ok...so maybe there are parallels. :)

I'll be gathering as many positive feels as I can between now and the next season. I am *this close* to losing it completely.

Thanks sweetie.
xx

Date: 2014-05-21 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
Oh, god help me if I see folks forgiving Sam.

*collects positive feels like daisies, sticks them in an empty whiskey bottle, leaves them on your doorstep*
Edited Date: 2014-05-21 01:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-05-21 01:51 pm (UTC)

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