So ya know...

[ash48]

I'm not going to be writing up a reaction or review of 10.12. In fact, it's unlikely I'll be writing them any more. I feel I only want to complain these days and that's not fair on anyone (though I'm thinking of writing up some general stuff - mostly to help me try and work why I'm feeling just over it all).

I am still curious about what every one thought so I'll still do the polls (if you're all still happy to fill them out *g*).

[Poll #1998102]

Comments

[zubeneschamali.livejournal.com]

I've been thinking about damsel-in-distress!Sam and the way he's effectively erased from the critical fight scenes for the last, oh, year and a half, and I wonder if part of it isn't gender-related. Sam is often portrayed as the feminine one (Samantha, being into books and studying, preferring emotional connections to picking up a chick in a bar, etc.), and one of the pleasures of this show has always been the two brothers being equal in smarts and strength and agency. When that equality is eroded, making Sam the helpless "woman" who has to be rescued by Dean (or by Gadreel, last season), might we resent it more because as women, we were enjoying watching a relationship between equals?

IDK, just a thought. I also wanted to say that it's totally understandable for you to take a step back. I wasn't as upset as other people with the ep because I'm no longer surprised at how the writers treat Sam. Sad, yes, but I guess I've come to expect it and so will concentrate on the good parts, like how frickin' awesome Dylan Everett was on his own and with Jared.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Hi. It's an interesting point. I really can't work it out. It's like they fear that if Sam is instrumental in those fight scenes (or has moments any other character) it will some how detract from Dean. I think Sam's "need" to be rescued is tied into Dean's heroism. There are times I love it, but man - it's becoming so repetitive.

might we resent it more because as women, we were enjoying watching a relationship between equals?

I certainly know I enjoy watching them as equals. :) Not sure if that's because I'm a women or just because the one sided story telling is getting a bit tedious to me.

I wasn't as upset as other people with the ep

Oh, other people were upset with it? I felt like I was the only one (and actually, I enjoyed it. Like last week's episode. They're fine, but I'm just not feeling them like I used to). I've mostly seen squee (which is great!) so I've been really feeling out of step…)

[cuddyclothes.livejournal.com]

You should been on Twitter. Lots of screaming and carrying on.

I've enjoyed it more on rewatch, plus I can see more of Sam's being part of the action. Except for the mandatory knocked down/helpless part, he tackles Hansel and is fighting until the witch throws him against the wall in the usual fashion. It's easy to miss on first watch. He's very protective of Dean throughout the episode, in an active way rather than a passive way.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

You should been on Twitter. Lots of screaming and carrying on.

Haha! I was on twitter for a bit (jumped on a friends tweet - while she was squeeing about it. I shouldn't have done that but her saying that it showed character growth just made me O_o)

Sam WAS mostly active in the ep. I re-watched it too and saw that. I did like how protective he was. And Dylan was awesome. My niggles aren't actually with that episode as such - I just had that moment of clarity about the show - that moment when you realise it's not going to do what you hoped it would.

[gidgetgal9.livejournal.com]

Mizpah1931 has a story called Daphne, that was posted on Supernaturalville which is a site no longer up- but it was a humorous look at Sam being Daphne. She is slowly reposting stories on LJ and maybe someday it will be up to read again but your post made me think of it. :)