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I'm not going to be writing up a reaction or review of 10.12. In fact, it's unlikely I'll be writing them any more. I feel I only want to complain these days and that's not fair on anyone (though I'm thinking of writing up some general stuff - mostly to help me try and work why I'm feeling just over it all).

I am still curious about what every one thought so I'll still do the polls (if you're all still happy to fill them out *g*).

[Poll #1998102]

Date: 2015-02-07 10:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] el1ie.livejournal.com
I'm not sure I should even be commenting on this any longer - however!

Sitting watching? This was a highly enjoyable episode, it had touches of everything I've been missing from the show, it had excellent performances, it had no angel and demon plot lines, a great supernatural myth, brothers looking out for each other, put this in season 2 and I probably would have been shouting from the roof tops.

But we're not in season 2, I don't want to go back to season 2, we're 10 years down a hard, long road, littered with broken promises and dead friends. Where we are now and with what's gone before? As many times as I complain about their complicated plotting and the anvils, this one was so far removed from what went on last year it's not even paper over the cracks, it's spider webs over chasms of missed opportunity. There were so many places they could have used to turn a corner, but no, plough on through without actually getting any where.

But to me, that's what show has become, all the dropped plots and situations shine like beacons over what is now a very shallow and watered down surface apology of the characterisation of Dean and Sam that doesn't seem to know where it wants to focus, except re-setting them into a simple 'one's wrong, while t'other worries' or 'Dean still has to save everyone and his baby brother Sam' base line every season and be damned the fact they already saved the bloody world once, grew up, faced their deepest fears of losing each other and made that ultimate sacrifice, move on! Writing is poor and is whatever they think the certain loudest fans want to see and will gain the most retweets of the night, I get it, basking in the glow of SPN fandom love must be addictive, but get off the fucking internet and out of fandom and look at this show's history not it's fandom's wants and needs. Lowest Common Denominator, we has reached it.

I've reached the point of not caring any longer. I withdrew from fandom and haven't read any fiction for a couple of years now, hoping I could re-kindle my love of show, didn't work and now I feel even further away from show than ever, with no desire to even start reading again because I don't even like this Dean and Sam any longer. Take it from me, take the show for what it is, a bit of fantasy fodder in pretty pictures and throw yourself into fandom, you'll be happier, fandom can fix anything.

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Date: 2015-02-07 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I'm not sure I should even be commenting on this any longer - however!

I love it when you do! :)

put this in season 2 and I probably would have been shouting from the roof tops.

OMG! Me too! It really did have it all. Like last week, I really enjoyed it. And, like last week it left me empty. I felt like I could see the machinations of it all.

it's spider webs over chasms of missed opportunity.

Oh, nicely put.

And YES! It's the opportunities to say/do something that they keep missing. The fact is, it became very clear that they just don't see that there IS anything to address. It really is like none of that ever happened. None of ANYTHING from S8 on seems relevant. I just wish they could tie in some of the huge issues they started to address last season. I know it's "just a TV show", but dammit - some of us watch it intently, not just as a passing show (I gotta figure that of the nearly 2mil that watch in the US when it airs, most of them are just passing watchers…. I really don't know).

but get off the fucking internet and out of fandom and look at this show's history not it's fandom's wants and needs.

OH GOD! This SO MUCH! And that's so it! Adam Glass was tweeting before it aired and during the episode and it's all this "acceptance" that's so worrying. I know it must be rewarding having fans shower you with love, but I want them to write stories because of an overall arc and plan, not for instant gratification. Glass wanted to use Dylan Everett again (don't blame him!!) but he wasted a great opportunity to do something between the brothers other than reinforce that Sam worries about Dean and Dean is fighting the Mark. But yeah. Too complicated I suppose.

Take it from me, take the show for what it is, a bit of fantasy fodder in pretty pictures and throw yourself into fandom, you'll be happier, fandom can fix anything

Yeah. Good advice. And I'm trying! *g* I always said I would not go quietly. I'll go kicking and screaming out of this fandom. OR maybe I will eventually just lose interest...

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