SPN questions that have been bugging me...
Jan. 3rd, 2010 10:32 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ash48and so I wondered if my knowledgeable flist could shed any light...
1. Was the demon in Croatoan (Duane Tanner) Meg? I admit to never thinking it was but I've come to realise that others think it is....?
2. When Ruby told Sam "You didn't need the feather to fly, you had it in you the whole time Dumbo", she's referring to Sam not needing the blood to be able to exorcise Demons yeah? So if that's the case why does Sam run out of "juice" when exorcising Demons? As in he wasn't able to exorcise Ruby after getting rid on Lilith. Is it because he is mentally exhausted? Spent his mental energies? Did he only think he needed blood in order to use his special skills. If so, does than mean he could actually exorcise demons now (and in S5) and doesn't because it would betray Dean's trust and just be too "darkside"? I'm thinking yes. But would he be able to without the connection to blood.... Hmmmm...
and finally (and this is because I am getting all wooby because I am in the middle of making a Sam vid and it's breaking me heart just a little...).
Why is Dean so hard on Sam with the choices he made after his death? I suppose that's rhetorical, because I know Dean has issues he's dealing with as well (and Sam choosing Ruby over himself cut to the core), but Dean copped out after Sam's death. He didn't want to live with the pain of grief. He couldn't live without Sam, so he bought him back.
Yet Sam had to suffer the terrible grief of losing Dean. He didn't have an out like Dean did. Now, sure Sam made some bad choices, but holy crap. I think Dean making a deal with a demon was a pretty bad choice as well. So yeah, cut your little bro some slack Dean. He was hurting mighty bad and the choices at the time helped him survive. Don't forget, you chose not to live with those feelings.....
(And that last one isn't really a question, just a rant. I know the way each of them have handled each others death is the whole point (well mostly) of S3 to S5. And I love it really! Just thinky thoughts...)
1. Was the demon in Croatoan (Duane Tanner) Meg? I admit to never thinking it was but I've come to realise that others think it is....?
2. When Ruby told Sam "You didn't need the feather to fly, you had it in you the whole time Dumbo", she's referring to Sam not needing the blood to be able to exorcise Demons yeah? So if that's the case why does Sam run out of "juice" when exorcising Demons? As in he wasn't able to exorcise Ruby after getting rid on Lilith. Is it because he is mentally exhausted? Spent his mental energies? Did he only think he needed blood in order to use his special skills. If so, does than mean he could actually exorcise demons now (and in S5) and doesn't because it would betray Dean's trust and just be too "darkside"? I'm thinking yes. But would he be able to without the connection to blood.... Hmmmm...
and finally (and this is because I am getting all wooby because I am in the middle of making a Sam vid and it's breaking me heart just a little...).
Why is Dean so hard on Sam with the choices he made after his death? I suppose that's rhetorical, because I know Dean has issues he's dealing with as well (and Sam choosing Ruby over himself cut to the core), but Dean copped out after Sam's death. He didn't want to live with the pain of grief. He couldn't live without Sam, so he bought him back.
Yet Sam had to suffer the terrible grief of losing Dean. He didn't have an out like Dean did. Now, sure Sam made some bad choices, but holy crap. I think Dean making a deal with a demon was a pretty bad choice as well. So yeah, cut your little bro some slack Dean. He was hurting mighty bad and the choices at the time helped him survive. Don't forget, you chose not to live with those feelings.....
(And that last one isn't really a question, just a rant. I know the way each of them have handled each others death is the whole point (well mostly) of S3 to S5. And I love it really! Just thinky thoughts...)
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Date: 2010-01-03 05:40 am (UTC)2) I think Kripke just made it up on the fly and thought that line sounded good, without thinking it through more thoroughly. (But I have to admit that I haven't rewatched any of S4.)
3) I think a little of it is that if Sam has gone darkside and is so lost, then Dean's time in hell was worth nothing. Dean's sacrifice was worth nothing and Dean broke the first seal for nothing. There was a pretty strong thread running through the season that maybe Dean regretted the deal he made that sent him to hell. Fandom kinda saw it as Dean not caring for Sam, but I think we were supposed to see it as Dean growing and realizing he made a mistake. They (writers, Kripke) just never really followed through on it at all and you kind of have to infer it and imagine it. (Again, I haven't rewatched any of S4, so I may be rememberin wrong.)
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Date: 2010-01-03 08:50 am (UTC)Yes. I kind of imagined him as part of Azazel's family. I know Demons seem to be able to mix it up gender wise, but I saw him as a "son" as well.
I think Kripke just made it up on the fly and thought that line sounded good
Oh noes! Really? That would be truly disappointing if that was the case. It was such a poignant moment - showing Sam how well he was "played" by Ruby the whole time. It hasn't been mentioned again in S4, as far as I know, and I will be disappointed if some reference isn't made to it at some stage.
I think a little of it is that if Sam has gone darkside and is so lost, then Dean's time in hell was worth nothing.
Ah yes. I can see that. And Sam did say he wasn't going to go down that route... I never got the feeling that Dean didn't care for Sam though. Angry, disappointed, scared... but always caring. To me though, he just has a funny way of showing it. But I think that's part of Dean's character. Lack of communication between them seems to have created many of the problems they face now...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts hun! :D