SPN questions that have been bugging me...

[ash48]

and so I wondered if my knowledgeable flist could shed any light...


1. Was the demon in Croatoan (Duane Tanner) Meg? I admit to never thinking it was but I've come to realise that others think it is....?

2. When Ruby told Sam "You didn't need the feather to fly, you had it in you the whole time Dumbo", she's referring to Sam not needing the blood to be able to exorcise Demons yeah? So if that's the case why does Sam run out of "juice" when exorcising Demons? As in he wasn't able to exorcise Ruby after getting rid on Lilith. Is it because he is mentally exhausted? Spent his mental energies? Did he only think he needed blood in order to use his special skills. If so, does than mean he could actually exorcise demons now (and in S5) and doesn't because it would betray Dean's trust and just be too "darkside"? I'm thinking yes. But would he be able to without the connection to blood.... Hmmmm...

and finally (and this is because I am getting all wooby because I am in the middle of making a Sam vid and it's breaking me heart just a little...).

Why is Dean so hard on Sam with the choices he made after his death? I suppose that's rhetorical, because I know Dean has issues he's dealing with as well (and Sam choosing Ruby over himself cut to the core), but Dean copped out after Sam's death. He didn't want to live with the pain of grief. He couldn't live without Sam, so he bought him back.

Yet Sam had to suffer the terrible grief of losing Dean. He didn't have an out like Dean did. Now, sure Sam made some bad choices, but holy crap. I think Dean making a deal with a demon was a pretty bad choice as well. So yeah, cut your little bro some slack Dean. He was hurting mighty bad and the choices at the time helped him survive. Don't forget, you chose not to live with those feelings.....

(And that last one isn't really a question, just a rant. I know the way each of them have handled each others death is the whole point (well mostly) of S3 to S5. And I love it really! Just thinky thoughts...)

Comments

[ancastar.livejournal.com]

Since you've already had your questions answered, I'll just add my two cents on your mini-rant. :-)

And please know--I do understand some of the whys and wherefores of Dean's reaction to learning what Sam did in his absence. I'm not blaming him. The guy just came back from hell. I'm thinking he deserves a little slack.

However, I also think Sam does too. I've mentioned this in my own LJ, so you may have seen it already. But here it goes again--not only does Sam go without Dean for four months when Dean is in hell. But in Mystery Spot he has to endure 100 Tuesdays of watching Dean die and then when Dean dies on a Wednesday, he stays dead for (I believe) six months.

Dean couldn't handle a single day, yet Sam has to handle over a year.

For crying out loud--that's emotional and mental torture. Particularly when it seems there is nothing he can do to make it all right. He is rendered powerless.

Really, it's no wonder he was such a basket case when he couldn't strike a bargain to get Dean back or why he would be open to the idea of channeling his demon slaying abilities.

But the show hasn't taken what happened to Sam in MS all that seriously, and I wish they would. I'd hoped for that to occur in Changing Channels, but it didn't. The only reference we got to it was Dean talking about how he'd like to kick the Trickster's ass for what had happened to him. Seems to me like in many ways Sam was the bigger victim.

[varkelton]

{{{Group Sam!Girl Hug}}} I love you guys! Sure Sam made bad choices, but there were no clear reasons why they were so bad, and it sure didn't seem like there were any other reasonable choices at the time. Let's not forget the angels were being just as manipulative and self-serving as the demons... I'm a spoiler-phobe, but I heard last summer that the writers are pretty determined to parallel the blood thing with a "drugs are bad" message, and the first few episodes certainly seemed to bear that out. I doubt we're going to get a satisfactory resolution to this. But maybe they'll move away from this in the second half of the season and we'll get lucky. I'd love to see them deal fairly with some of Sam's issues. Here's hoping...

[ancastar.livejournal.com]

Here's hoping indeed! I'm keeping my fingers crossed tight (so hard to type... *g*) for Sam Interrupted. That looks very intriguing to me.

(((((((Group Sam!Girl Hug)))))))

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Yes. Mystery Spot is one of my major bug bears. I loved the episode but to never refer to it again is amazing because of the trauma Sam suffer.

It's interesting to me though that his emotional response in MS was completely different to that after he dies in NRFW. One cold and unemotional and the other a total mess and very, very emotional. I wonder if that's because he wasn't able to save Dean from going to hell...?? Hmmm

The only reference we got to it was Dean talking about how he'd like to kick the Trickster's ass for what had happened to him.

You know, I read that as for what he did to Sam - because Dean wouldn't remember any of it. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking...? :)

Amd yeah, a little bit of me gets annoyed that Sam's motivations were explored a little more. Or more importantly, he's portrayed rather unsympathetically. Ungrateful and uncaring. (Stupid Yellow Fever didn't help is cause any either!)

(Joins in the Group Sam!Girl Hug with varkelton! :D