5.17 ep reaction
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ash48It's damn annoying when you finish watching the show, plan to share the chat on LJ and LJ decides to have some time out.. Sheesh... Anytime but Friday nights (or Thursday night elsewhere), please LJ!
Anyway. My insta-reaction would have been... OH DEAN! :(
Actually my initial response was a feeling of numbness. I just sat staring at the screen thinking - omg, he's going to say yes. He wasn't going to do that. He CAN'T do that. I remembered now why I hated it when we found out that Sam was Lu's vessel. These boys are going to end up fighting each other. Really fight. Up until now I thought that might be avoided. I mean, I know that that's the whole point but..*sigh*.... as cool as it would be to see that, fighting boys breaks my heart. It means they both say yes and I'm not really sure I want to see that either. But I better snap out of it because I'm pretty sure that's what's going to happen
There were some amazingly cool moments in this episode. The big hunter fight being one of them and even though Sam and Dean are still at massive odds with each other they still work so friggin' well together. And they still care if the other one is hurt. "Are you all right?" being asked a couple of times. (I live for little moments like that. Little hints....)
But Dean. I take my hat off to Jensen because the slow disintegration of the "Dean" we know and love has been amazing. There's very little left of the Dean we started out with. His utter emptiness is apparent in every scene. Whether the scene is about that or not. His body language and eyes just show complete and utter weariness the whole time. He finds joy nowhere. He's made it believable that Dean could say yes. He's taken his character to the brink.
I know a lot have thought the final scene was "tacked on" and didn't ring true and I admit to being slightly taken aback also, but it made so much sense in regards to Dean's character. Looking out for other people. Acknowledging the things he's missed out on. He seemed to be making his peace. Getting his affairs in order before (ONCE AGAIN YOU IDIOT!) sacrificing himself for (what he believes to be) the good of others. (Because that always works out so well DAMN WELL DEAN!) And yes, I want to SHAKE him. LEARN FROM THE PAST DEAN!... But, it wouldn't be Show if it didn't make me want to do that...
And Sam. I'm going to stand by my conviction that Sam will (somehow!) save Dean from saying yes. (though I'm also in 2 minds about whether them saying yes is going to be a completely bad thing..) Sam was so strong in this episode. Scared yes - because he knows how broken and empty Dean is. But he's keeping up the good fight. He seems to still have the "we will go down fighting" attitude that Dean once had. (AND WHAT HAPPENED TO TEAM FREE WILL DEAN??!!)
And that shot of Dean driving away and leaving Sam is utter despair? No words... just a deep ache in my heart. Amazing shot. (Again Dean! Leaving Sam is NOT A GOOD IDEA!!! Remember what happened last time??!!) I know I should stop shouting at Dean, but really....
And I'm getting on board with Cas more and more. I think the slow deterioration of his character has been interesting as well. His becoming less angel and more human has been fascinating to watch. Not only damn funny at times, but heartbreaking also. I also love how it makes future!Cas more believable. I can totally believe that if left on this path he would end up as the Cas we saw in The End.
Though Future!Dean was a Dean that didn't say yes. So maybe by saying yes now that will change the course of events so the future doesn't happen (assuming that future was "real" and not fabricated by Zac)... *ouch* my brain hurts now. That's too thinky for me at the moment.
Though speaking of Zac, surely Dean can't give into him? He is such a (deliciously) despicable character that surely Dean can't... :(((((
The only thing I really had trouble believing was how far that woman (Jane, I think) would go to get to "paradise". I mean I get it. But I hate to think that our natural instinct to value life could be stripped away so quickly and so brutally.
Anyway. I didn't come off that episode thinking "OMG! I loved it" - but having had time to digest it and think about it, it was a good solid episode, which will no doubt generate some good thinky thoughts. :)
The question is. How much more heartbreak can I take?! We still have 5 episodes to go. I suspect I'm going to have to take a lot more yet .....
Anyway. My insta-reaction would have been... OH DEAN! :(
Actually my initial response was a feeling of numbness. I just sat staring at the screen thinking - omg, he's going to say yes. He wasn't going to do that. He CAN'T do that. I remembered now why I hated it when we found out that Sam was Lu's vessel. These boys are going to end up fighting each other. Really fight. Up until now I thought that might be avoided. I mean, I know that that's the whole point but..*sigh*.... as cool as it would be to see that, fighting boys breaks my heart. It means they both say yes and I'm not really sure I want to see that either. But I better snap out of it because I'm pretty sure that's what's going to happen
There were some amazingly cool moments in this episode. The big hunter fight being one of them and even though Sam and Dean are still at massive odds with each other they still work so friggin' well together. And they still care if the other one is hurt. "Are you all right?" being asked a couple of times. (I live for little moments like that. Little hints....)
But Dean. I take my hat off to Jensen because the slow disintegration of the "Dean" we know and love has been amazing. There's very little left of the Dean we started out with. His utter emptiness is apparent in every scene. Whether the scene is about that or not. His body language and eyes just show complete and utter weariness the whole time. He finds joy nowhere. He's made it believable that Dean could say yes. He's taken his character to the brink.
I know a lot have thought the final scene was "tacked on" and didn't ring true and I admit to being slightly taken aback also, but it made so much sense in regards to Dean's character. Looking out for other people. Acknowledging the things he's missed out on. He seemed to be making his peace. Getting his affairs in order before (ONCE AGAIN YOU IDIOT!) sacrificing himself for (what he believes to be) the good of others. (Because that always works out so well DAMN WELL DEAN!) And yes, I want to SHAKE him. LEARN FROM THE PAST DEAN!... But, it wouldn't be Show if it didn't make me want to do that...
And Sam. I'm going to stand by my conviction that Sam will (somehow!) save Dean from saying yes. (though I'm also in 2 minds about whether them saying yes is going to be a completely bad thing..) Sam was so strong in this episode. Scared yes - because he knows how broken and empty Dean is. But he's keeping up the good fight. He seems to still have the "we will go down fighting" attitude that Dean once had. (AND WHAT HAPPENED TO TEAM FREE WILL DEAN??!!)
And that shot of Dean driving away and leaving Sam is utter despair? No words... just a deep ache in my heart. Amazing shot. (Again Dean! Leaving Sam is NOT A GOOD IDEA!!! Remember what happened last time??!!) I know I should stop shouting at Dean, but really....
And I'm getting on board with Cas more and more. I think the slow deterioration of his character has been interesting as well. His becoming less angel and more human has been fascinating to watch. Not only damn funny at times, but heartbreaking also. I also love how it makes future!Cas more believable. I can totally believe that if left on this path he would end up as the Cas we saw in The End.
Though Future!Dean was a Dean that didn't say yes. So maybe by saying yes now that will change the course of events so the future doesn't happen (assuming that future was "real" and not fabricated by Zac)... *ouch* my brain hurts now. That's too thinky for me at the moment.
Though speaking of Zac, surely Dean can't give into him? He is such a (deliciously) despicable character that surely Dean can't... :(((((
The only thing I really had trouble believing was how far that woman (Jane, I think) would go to get to "paradise". I mean I get it. But I hate to think that our natural instinct to value life could be stripped away so quickly and so brutally.
Anyway. I didn't come off that episode thinking "OMG! I loved it" - but having had time to digest it and think about it, it was a good solid episode, which will no doubt generate some good thinky thoughts. :)
The question is. How much more heartbreak can I take?! We still have 5 episodes to go. I suspect I'm going to have to take a lot more yet .....
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Date: 2010-04-10 04:07 am (UTC)Ah, but he can't learn from the past when he's seen the travesty of the future. (I want that to be a proverb! :D)
Nice review, Sarah!
Honestly, I had trouble grasping the final scene (and this comes from a hard Dean/Lisa shipper) because it was so random and out of place. But after rewatching it and seeing people's reviews on how Dean isn't necessarily trying to save Lisa and Ben because he's head-over-heels-in-love-with-them (rather he's trying to preserve them and their FAMILY; he's family's f*cked to hell, so he wants theirs to be safe), I've come to accept it more. (Not to mention that when Jensen utters "And the kid." my heart breaks into a bajillion little pieces.)
I totally agree (and am ashamed that I didn't correlate it sooner!) that this Cas is how future!Cas begins. I just noticed that Dean FIRST throws him the pills and that future!Cas is addicted to pills and OH, my heart. I can't believe Dean got him started on it. OUCH.
Sam is totally gonna save Dean. I've got that feeling, y'know. It's Sam's redemption for all the times he's turned his back on Dean - he won't turn his back now that Dean needs him the most! Sam's got that resolute determination that I just love now. GO SAM! (And he's gotta have the amulet on him, right? Just waiting for the right time to return it to its rightful owner?? :) Wishful thinking.)
[Yeah, that Jane woman was nuts. I know a mother's bond is strong, but dude, wtf!]
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Date: 2010-04-10 07:37 am (UTC)Consider it so! Actually the whole past/future scenarios really mess with the brain...
Dean isn't necessarily trying to save Lisa and Ben because he's head-over-heels-in-love-with-them
Yeah. It was never my feeling that that was the reason he went back. In all honesty I can't get past that Lisa and Dne were just a vehicle for us, the audience, to see and hear where Dean is at before he goes off to make the deal. I mean I love the idea of Dean settling down and being a family man - but as he said, it's just not his life.. :(
I totally agree (and am ashamed that I didn't correlate it sooner!) that this Cas is how future!Cas begins.
Yeah, it dawned on me as I was watching that this Cas is familiar. We've seen him before. And good pick up on the pills - I hadn't made that connection. But yeah - I can totally see that Dean would have started Cas on this road.. (He already started it when he took him to that brothel).
Sam is totally gonna save Dean.
He is right?! He is. (God, I hope so. It would make everything fall into place. Sam is in a good position now (after last weeks ep) to know more about what Dean needs. I said in a previous post that God's answer to Dean plea for help is to give him Sam. A Sam that has seen Dean's hurt from the past. A wiser Sam. Sam is ready now. (please....)
I know a mother's bond is strong, but dude, wtf!
I know. I would hate to think my morals would disintegrate so rapidly ... but, who knows I suppose.
Thanks for popping in hun.
xx