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You know how when there's this terrific build up to an episode and you imagine all these wonderful things are going to happen and there's this really high expectation



AND IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN YOU IMAGINED!!!!! OH MY EFFING GOD!!!!

*deep breath* A couple of things before we start:

1. ASDHJFHASD;FITJALTJAAJJFJFASGSTFGSFFAGKKUFFYRHFJKSKAA!!!!!! (just had to get that out of my system..)

and

2. Kripke you are a BASTARD! You ARE! I hate you and love you all at the same time! BASTARD!

Why?! Well there's more than one friggin' reason...

* You break our hearts JUST SO you can mend them again in some schmoopy bromance episode. Bastard!
* You even use the word Bromance IN the episode. Bastard!
* You have broken!Dean AND keysmashfabulous!Sam in the same episode. (Maybe not such a bastard)
* You brought back Adam.. \o/ (Oh thank you...a third "kinda" brother...yes, thanks!)
* You have have kick ass Cas! (You really are trying to make me like him aren't you?!) Bastard!
* You fill the episode with slash references just for us...

Let's just pause for a moment... Is it just me? I don't really watch the show with my slash goggles on (shut up! I mostly try not to...) but come on! Those lines...they're there for us yes?? "erotically co-dependent!?" All that stuff with Cas?!! Up against the wall fighting?! "Blow me?" Winks at Cas AND Sam??!! Come on! <3

Actually the bro!love that was pouring out of that episode?!.... *guh*.. definitely not a bastard for that!

*They have the "in the car chat at the end of the episode* which they haven't done for AGES! \o/
*Sam knows Dean... I mean... really, really KNOWS him. Not enough hearts for that one.
*Dean has to witness not one but TWO suffering brothers (sorry.. massive kink I have here so .. BASTARD!!)

Now for the *you really are actually a bastard* points..

* You killed Zac. :(((( He was such a wonderful baddy. I LOVE the SPN baddies. Gordon, Alistair... and now Zac. :(
*There were NO women in that episode. Now, I'm not one to get on my high horse about that because yep! I'm into the guys.. especially our gorgeous SPN guys... but WOW, that was testosterone heavy... and more noticeable (I thought) than usual...

BUT...

You are a manipulating bastard Kripke!! You knew! 100th episode and there was going to be (for the moment, anyway and hopefully forever) reconciliation between the brothers. There was going to be those long awaited apologises between them. There was going to be Sam SAVING and having the utmost FAITH in Dean !.. Sam growing up! Dean restoring his faith in Sam! (Oh and GOD, Dean acknowledging that he left Sam to rot in the panic room!) Sam saying "you're still my big brother... *melts into a pile of GOO!* And Sam being...just everything!!! (please, please can we keep this Sam now....)

I'll stop now because I am ranting. There's just so much more.. but.. I'm just.... you know.

Kripke. You may be a bastard. But I love you. Not least because our boys - though they didn't physically hug - they did emotionally and that's enough for me. *happy, happy sigh*

<33333333333333

Date: 2010-04-16 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mara-snh.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure the line was "neurotically codependent," but it was slurred intentionally to dance the dance of ambiguity. Other than that, I certainly agree it was a stellar ep, more than equal to the hype. I wish I hadn't seen those spoiler clips, though, because those scenes were so powerful. I'd like to have seen the for the first time in the context of the rest of the show. Reminder to self: go spoiler-free for the remainder of S5!

Date: 2010-04-16 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ancastar.livejournal.com
Nope. It was "erotically". It was even close-captioned that way. I think, with it coming out of Zach's mouth, the non-slashers in the audience could take it as a slam against Sam and Dean's "manhood." While the slashers could see it as a shout-out. So it works. At least I thought it did.

Date: 2010-04-16 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mara-snh.livejournal.com
I've just re-run that scene a few times and it really does look as if he's saying "erotically." It would be possible to work your mouth that way to make it sound like "neurotically," but that's a little far-fetched, even for Supernatural. I'm now coming down on the side of "erotically," with the rest of SPN fandom.

I humbly apologize for having doubted ;-)

Date: 2010-04-17 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
You know "neurotically codependent would make a lot more sense of course... and very true of the brothers. And definitely something Zac would say. I hadn't seen all the discussion about it when I wrote this. I just couldn't believe it when I heard it. :D

Oh and yes. Being unspoiled. Best thing ever. I used to watch all the little clips and promos and everything. Now I just wait because seeing them in context is so much more powerful.

So stay strong! Unspoiled for the remainder of S5. :D

Date: 2010-04-16 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhoboat.livejournal.com
I LOVE your misleading cut texts! :D

Yesss! SHOW WAS AWESOME.

Date: 2010-04-17 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Ha! I'm naughty that way....;)

Oh indeed. Show was very, very awesome. And I have to say I really really didn't think it was going to live up to the hype. I'm thrilled I was pleasantly surprised.

<3

Date: 2010-04-16 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ancastar.livejournal.com
I love all your thoughts! And wasn't Sam lovely in this?! Dean was too; he just needed to work through some things to get there. There was much brotherly schmoop to enjoy.

Now I want more.

AND A HUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I don't think that's asking too much...)

Date: 2010-04-17 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Hee! Thanks hun. Very ranty... but after that I just couldn't help myself. :)

And Sam..?! *melts completely* (Hopefully that will silence the Sam doubters! *g*)

Now I want more.

You know the worse thing? Because Kripke really is a bastard? We still have 4 more episodes in which he can rip us into pieces again. If he makes Sam say Yes (after that episode) I think I may just have to kill him.. or something equally serious!

But. Let's not think that way. I'm going to ride happy while I can... :D :D

(And yes! A hug is not too much to ask for!)

<33

Date: 2010-04-16 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debbiel66.livejournal.com
I've always said that the series needs to end with the two boys, in the Impala, happy together, with the whole wide world their open road.

I could have ended up happy if last night's episode was truly the last. But I'm so very, very glad it's not.

And it was definitely "erotically." I was kind of amazed it made it past the censors. :)

Date: 2010-04-17 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Oh yes. It has the sense of a chapter closing didn't it? And really, that's how I would like to see it all end (when eventually it has to...*sniff*).

I think we can take what happiness we can get and brace ourselves for the next 4 episodes.

He did actually say "erotically" then? It's what everybody is saying he said. It certainly sounded that way. Show certainly likes to mess with us... ;)

<3

Date: 2010-04-17 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debbiel66.livejournal.com
He did actually say "erotically" then? It's what everybody is saying he said. It certainly sounded that way. Show certainly likes to mess with us... ;)

Amazing, isn't it? Never watched a show like this before... never loved a show like this before. :)

Date: 2010-04-16 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamrequiem.livejournal.com
LOL I'm pretty sure it was "neurotically". That's how it sounded to me, it fits in the context of what Zach was saying (ie. they're crazy and have mental issues). The other way doesn't really make sense and closed captions get words wrong all the time so I wouldn't trust them :P

Date: 2010-04-17 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
"neurotically" would make a lot of sense. It's definitely something Zach would have said. And definitely describes the brothers. And I'm pretty sure it would have been scripted that way....but. Show likes to mess with our brains so I'm thinking they played around with that, just to stir us up. Which it did!

:)

In Kripke we trust!

Date: 2010-04-16 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriesjunkie23.livejournal.com
You said it so well and I totally agree to all of the above. Darn it, that was a great episode. And I was so worried that Dean was gonna say yes. I wavered but I shall never doubt again! So help me...Kripke :)!

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought that the slash/wincest references were aplenty in this one. What can I say? I know I'm a sick twisted little puppy for liking me some Dean/Castiel but what the heck? And bamfy Cas? OMG, I love him more with each episode if that's even humanly possible. And while this wayward chick almost lost faith in her favorite Winchester (i.e. Sam) in the beginning of this season, it has been restored with this episode. Phew! Don't know what I would have done otherwise.

Kripke is God! There's no other way to say it.


Re: In Kripke we trust!

Date: 2010-04-16 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emeraldsedai.livejournal.com
Yes to everything you said, and if there's really any doubt in your mind of Kripke and company's blatant, conscious, deliberate fanservice, I'd have thought that the use of the term "bromance" alone would have resolved it. Add to that the many, many other slash-specific references and there is no more room for doubt.

And it was definitely "erotically codependent".

Re: In Kripke we trust!

Date: 2010-04-17 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Hee! I couldn't believe the word "bromance" was actually uttered... but then there was so much that had me kinda shaking my head with a huge grin on my face. :)

And it was definitely "erotically codependent".

Yeah, from what I've been reading that's what he said. \o/ Amazing...

<3

Re: In Kripke we trust!

Date: 2010-04-17 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Thank you. :)

One the one hand I knew Dean couldn't say yes (just yet, with 5 episodes to go), but I really, really believe that he was ready to. I just love that actually he DID say yes ... and then changed his mind. So, we ended up with both!

And while this wayward chick almost lost faith in her favorite Winchester (i.e. Sam) in the beginning of this season,

Oh indeed. I've been waivering. I've been really scared at times what our Sammy was going to do. Which way they were going to take him. This is where I wanted him to be - strong, grown up, responsible, BUT also still needing Dean to be his big brother. And that's exactly what Dean needed to.

Oh show!

Kripke is God! There's no other way to say it.

Hee! Until he rips our hearts out again!! (But let's not dwell on that whilst we are all so happy!)

<3

Date: 2010-04-16 09:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] el1ie.livejournal.com
I'm still trying to process things - half the time I just couldn't believe what I was hearing, or seeing - ::gulp::

So pleased to see Adam show up, I really did wonder about him after Michael took John and they stressed the familial blood line for vessels.

However I would like to point out one tiny addition in your magnificent and fun summary.

Photobucket

Blink and you'd miss her...wouldn't want to accuse the boys wrongly now would we?

Date: 2010-04-17 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Oh wow. Well spotted. What scene is that from?

I loved seeing Adam again. I really love the idea of a third brother. I also liked how they resolved us not having to see him regularly. He's back in heaven I presume... (though I wouldn't have minded if we did see him regularly..)

Great episode. I'll be riding high on that one for a while. :D

Date: 2010-04-17 08:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] el1ie.livejournal.com
She was one of the three who surrounded Castiel in the warehouse - you were probably distracted by the ripping off of the shirt to reveal that symbol ripped into his skin that your brain failed to catalogue it!

I think for me the best part of Adam this time around was the fact that he didn't consider the Winchesters as family immediately, his family was just him and his Mom and John was just this guy who popped in once a year and gave him a treat - that sounded very human and was so unlike the ghoul in that sense. However there was this underlying sense of yearning in him that made me feel he did want a chance to know the brothers better. Where he is now I don't know - could be Michael has taken him as a temporary vessel as Lucifer has done - Eeeek, I'm so pleased I'm spoiler free, having so much fun with speculations.

Great episode and above all a great big sigh from me - are we finally over these old festering conflicts now? Pretty please, I think they've about run them into the ground - I know there have been far too many times this year I just want to shake the pair of them and clonk their heads together.

That smile and wink to Sam on the floor and it was me melting on the floor - it's just how I always want them to be.

Date: 2010-04-17 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
YES! That must have been it! :D... Actually at that moment I was thinking how much that much have hurt to have that carved into him, then came the "oooh Cas is baring his chest". *g* Absolutely no chance to consider the extras! :D

Yes. Great observations about Adam. I loved how very different he was from the Adam we had before. I just love it when show puts the pieces together. And use past episodes.

are we finally over these old festering conflicts now? Pretty please, I think they've about run them into the ground

OH PLEASE!!! Wouldn't it be great if now we see them learning to work together again. Trust each other and work out how to fight this TOGETHER! It will kill me BEYOND REASON if, for some reason, Sam is made to say yes. Especially after all that. Dean will still need to see that Sam can resist. (I know he can!!)

That smile and wink to Sam on the floor and it was me melting on the floor - it's just how I always want them to be.

YES! Best moment ever! And at last. \o/

Edited Date: 2010-04-17 10:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-16 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenpear.livejournal.com
You are allowed to rant. It's your happy time.

Just like I was in 2005 when they brought back Doctor Who. I understand. I don't watch Supernatural, but I understand.

And it sounds like there was ust enough surprises for you. :)

Date: 2010-04-17 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Hey! Thanks!! We have our moments. The show likes to mostly rip our hearts out and stomp on them. (we are all so heavily invested in this story...). It was nice to get an episode that didn't do that for a change...

And oh my. The ust was...well, let's just say they like messing with the fans heads!

<3

Date: 2010-04-16 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] counteragent.livejournal.com
It was fanfic onscreen and I loved that about it, for once!

YAY ADAM ILU.

Date: 2010-04-17 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Yes. (It bordered on almost being slightly tooo much, but they kept bring it back so it was just.... YAY!)

And ADAM! *glomps* him...

Date: 2010-04-17 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callme-k.livejournal.com
Oh and yes. Being unspoiled. Best thing ever. I used to watch all the little clips and promos and everything. Now I just wait because seeing them in context is so much more powerful.

*cough*Itoldyouso*cough*:D

keysmashfabulous!Sam

Wasn't he!!!! Enough to make a Dean-girl turn.
I just adored Sam SO MUCH in this ep. Both boys, in fact, have resources of inner strength that they've barely tapped into, but when it comes to Sam...there's just something about watching him stepping into his own, that's really quite impressive.
And I don't think Dean's faith was the only one restored. I think plenty of fans are breathing a sigh of relief this morning too (in regards to their relationship I mean).

For my 2c worth, I get the humour in it, but personally, I can do without the show making the slash references; fandom has that well covered:)

Gotta rewatch this ep asap. 'twas more than a little anxious through it last night (damn you Kripke!:P)
Edited Date: 2010-04-17 12:50 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-17 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
HA! Yes.. being unspoiled! Takes a lot of strength though... :)

I think plenty of fans are breathing a sigh of relief this morning too (in regards to their relationship I mean).

Indeed. I'm not sure why I doubted it would ever happen. I admit I didn't think it was going to be this episode. Though it makes a hell of a lot of sense that it did - being 100 and all! (About time!)

I can do without the show making the slash references; fandom has that well covered:)

I have to say I agree. I know a lot of fans see the slash, read it, write it, etc. but there are equally fans who don't. (And possible more that don't than do... though I have no idea if that's true or not).

I think that show borders on alienating those fans a bit sometimes. I'm not sure. At times I think they go a bit too far. I like that it's the fans that create those situations and stories. I agree, we don't need the show doing it as well. And boy did they ever in this ep!

Oh and yes. I am desperate to watch it again. I can actually relax this time and enjoy it knowing how it turns out... :)

<3

Date: 2010-04-17 01:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
* You killed Zac. :(((( He was such a wonderful baddy. I LOVE the SPN baddies. Gordon, Alistair... and now Zac. :(

Don't forget Victor! Though he wasn't so much a baddy as just a nemesis (and so much could have been done there... but, I digress!)

though they didn't physically hug - they did emotionally and that's enough for me

Ha, ha! Yeah that's true. Perhaps at some point Adam will inform them about the erotically co-dependent thing. Assuming Dean's not too busy flirting with Castiel at the time.

Date: 2010-04-17 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Oh yes Victor..:( I absolutely loved his character too. And I just hate to think of the waste of killing him off. So many other opportunities to use him later on.

I think all the killing off of OC's is there to make the Winchester seem more and more isolated. Damn them! They're hurting enough.. Hee! But now, I digress.

Perhaps at some point Adam will inform them about the erotically co-dependent thing. Assuming Dean's not too busy flirting with Castiel at the time.

HAHAHA! Oh the fiction that will come out of this episode alone.... :D:D

Date: 2010-04-17 02:01 am (UTC)
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Date: 2010-04-17 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
O.M.G. That there! THAT"S IT!!!! right there!!

*dies*

And *squishes* you BIG TIME!!

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Date: 2010-04-17 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greyowl88.livejournal.com
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(Glad my internet works again, frigging technologie)

Date: 2010-04-17 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Yay! Hi!

And yes! So many hearts are required for this episode!

And *phew*... internet back on. I get a bit "stressed" when my worldly life line goes down.

<333

Date: 2010-04-17 04:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dotfic.livejournal.com
Ha, I was not fooled by your misleading cut text -- there was NO WAY you wouldn't be capslocking with joy over this one. <3<3

Heh. I noticed the girl angel, and at first had the same thought you had -- no women in the whole ep but a female warrior angel, that's not too shabby! (okay, a baddie, but still.)

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! <3<3<3 EPIC EPIC EPIC episode.

Date: 2010-04-18 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
HA!! You know me too well!! :D :D

I so didn't notice the girl angel at that time. Might well have to do with what else was going on in that scene.... ;) <3

MASSIVEEPICFANTASTICJOYINDUCINGFABULOUSFANTASTICEPIC EPISODE!! :D

Boy. I wonder if they can top that with the season finale?!

(Actual huggging might help!)

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