Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury...
Nov. 10th, 2010 11:06 pmLost soulless puppy or devil in disguise?
I present the case for Sam Winchester: a devil in disguise.
Members of the jury, we have had seven episodes from which to cull character evidence for this extremely hot, *koff* I mean, extraordinarily handsome young defendant before you. Is he merely a man who has been returned from Hell without his soul, or is he a man on a mission - a man with a hidden agenda? Perhaps, even an evil agenda.
Or maybe he isn't even a man at all?
Ok. Ok. He does have those damnable puppy eyes. But don't let that distract you from objectively...

Awww, he couldn't hurt a... *koff* Members of the jury, please disregard that momentary interruption. Now where was I?
Oh, yes. Is Sam Winchester more than merely Sammy returned from Hell without a soul? The following evidence may reveal he has a hidden agenda and may, in fact, reveal he is something other than purely human. (*sniff*)
Exhibit A: The Smirk.

The patented smirk has replaced the once familiar puppy eyes. No longer do those eyes reflect the depth of Sam's soulfulness, but rather, his seeming malevolence. It's not a look devoid of feeling: it's a look of smug satisfaction.
Exhibit B. His Actions:
i) Stopping Dean from killing Crowley when he had the chance in 6.04. This is certainly looking more suspicious now, eh? Especially when coupled with the line: "A deal's a deal." A man without feelings shouldn't have cared what Dean did here. Nor should he have been so quick off the mark to stop Dean.
ii). Luring Dean into hunts. Notice how he "needed help with the baby" and how he made the "are you with me Dean?" entreaty at the end of 6.07? It wasn't a question. It was a challenge.
What's so important that Sam needs Dean to be around I wonder? Especially after a whole year of not needing him around. Sure, you can argue he wants Dean as his moral compass. But why now? It is my contention that he's still lying to Dean. His soullessness has been "discovered" and he's now using a different tactic. It could be argued that self-preservation is an instinct - not an emotion - and therefore, justified. But being found out could be driven by fear. And fear, surely, is a valid emotion.
iii). His CAR. Nuff said. (It's an "action" because he actually made a conscious decision to purchase that abomination :P) sorry
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Exhibit C: His Words.
i) Lying. A lot. Saying he didn't use the baby as bait in 6.02, saying he wasn't aware of the cure for vampirism, saying he had Dean's back. Also he physically worked against that truth spell - that little choke was NO accident, I tell you! He's definitely hiding something.
ii) Deceit. He keeps withholding pertinent information from Dean, like the fact that he was back from Hell, or that he hasn't slept in over a year, or that he feels nothing...
Exhibit D: His "Super" Human Abilities.
i) Increased strength Notice how easily he freed himself from his bonds in 6.07 with the words: "You're not going to hold me Dean. Not anywhere. Not the panic room"?. This could be interpreted one of two ways: either that he knows Dean won't do those things out of a lingering sense of sympathy OR that the panic room just won't physically be able to hold him now.
ii) Heightened hearing. In 6.05 he heard the vamp falling before he hit the vehicle.
iii) No need for sleep. (No wonder that prostitute was in awe).
iv) Flickering lights when he appeared outside Lisa's window. See, you'd forgotten about that, huh?
v) Resisting Veritas Not only was Sam immune to her powers, she even went so far as to ask "what are you?" suggesting that he is not human. It could be argued that a man without a soul is something other than human - maybe even a human turning into a monster?
vi) Ridiculously hot body

C'mon! I rest my case. :)
This rather silly post is brought to you by a number of recent journal entries I've read. This is an amalgamation of "evidence" culled from sources as I've noticed a lot of people tossing about similar conjecture. This is my fun way of putting it all together.
To tell you the truth, I have no friggin' idea about Sam and my head has been hurting just thinking about it. I figure we will find out in due course, but in the mean time I just had to muck around with something. I don't even know what I want the ultimate truth about him to be. I am still struggling to find any good "out" for him at the moment.
That he is purely without a soul and completely lost may be somewhat more appealing than him being some sort of monster. At least, that way, there remains a brotherly bond of sorts. And I believed that bond existed in 6.07 as evidenced by Dean acting as Sam's moral compass. Though, now that I think about it, I may have just persuaded myself that it's all just a ruse. Argh....
There's just too much to ignore in episodes past. I love and hate that at the same time. "Love" because it's damn intriguing and fascinating, "hate" because whatever happens in the future all these things need to be addressed. They can't just erase seven episodes of "mysterious stuff" that Sam's been doing.
Or maybe they can. Maybe it's not so mysterious. Maybe it simply is Sam without a soul.
Whichever way, I can't wait to find out. In the meantime, if you have a case for "Sam, the lost soulless puppy" I'm all ears. :D
I still miss Sammy like nothing else. I'm enjoying the new direction the show is taking and how solid it is, but damn it hurts to know that we may not see our Sammy for a while. *sigh*
*heffa hugs to
maichan808 for the red pen.
I present the case for Sam Winchester: a devil in disguise.
Members of the jury, we have had seven episodes from which to cull character evidence for this extremely hot, *koff* I mean, extraordinarily handsome young defendant before you. Is he merely a man who has been returned from Hell without his soul, or is he a man on a mission - a man with a hidden agenda? Perhaps, even an evil agenda.
Or maybe he isn't even a man at all?
Ok. Ok. He does have those damnable puppy eyes. But don't let that distract you from objectively...

Awww, he couldn't hurt a... *koff* Members of the jury, please disregard that momentary interruption. Now where was I?
Oh, yes. Is Sam Winchester more than merely Sammy returned from Hell without a soul? The following evidence may reveal he has a hidden agenda and may, in fact, reveal he is something other than purely human. (*sniff*)
Exhibit A: The Smirk.

The patented smirk has replaced the once familiar puppy eyes. No longer do those eyes reflect the depth of Sam's soulfulness, but rather, his seeming malevolence. It's not a look devoid of feeling: it's a look of smug satisfaction.
Exhibit B. His Actions:
i) Stopping Dean from killing Crowley when he had the chance in 6.04. This is certainly looking more suspicious now, eh? Especially when coupled with the line: "A deal's a deal." A man without feelings shouldn't have cared what Dean did here. Nor should he have been so quick off the mark to stop Dean.
ii). Luring Dean into hunts. Notice how he "needed help with the baby" and how he made the "are you with me Dean?" entreaty at the end of 6.07? It wasn't a question. It was a challenge.
What's so important that Sam needs Dean to be around I wonder? Especially after a whole year of not needing him around. Sure, you can argue he wants Dean as his moral compass. But why now? It is my contention that he's still lying to Dean. His soullessness has been "discovered" and he's now using a different tactic. It could be argued that self-preservation is an instinct - not an emotion - and therefore, justified. But being found out could be driven by fear. And fear, surely, is a valid emotion.
iii). His CAR. Nuff said. (It's an "action" because he actually made a conscious decision to purchase that abomination :P) sorry
Exhibit C: His Words.
i) Lying. A lot. Saying he didn't use the baby as bait in 6.02, saying he wasn't aware of the cure for vampirism, saying he had Dean's back. Also he physically worked against that truth spell - that little choke was NO accident, I tell you! He's definitely hiding something.
ii) Deceit. He keeps withholding pertinent information from Dean, like the fact that he was back from Hell, or that he hasn't slept in over a year, or that he feels nothing...
Exhibit D: His "Super" Human Abilities.
i) Increased strength Notice how easily he freed himself from his bonds in 6.07 with the words: "You're not going to hold me Dean. Not anywhere. Not the panic room"?. This could be interpreted one of two ways: either that he knows Dean won't do those things out of a lingering sense of sympathy OR that the panic room just won't physically be able to hold him now.
ii) Heightened hearing. In 6.05 he heard the vamp falling before he hit the vehicle.
iii) No need for sleep. (No wonder that prostitute was in awe).
iv) Flickering lights when he appeared outside Lisa's window. See, you'd forgotten about that, huh?
v) Resisting Veritas Not only was Sam immune to her powers, she even went so far as to ask "what are you?" suggesting that he is not human. It could be argued that a man without a soul is something other than human - maybe even a human turning into a monster?
vi) Ridiculously hot body

C'mon! I rest my case. :)
This rather silly post is brought to you by a number of recent journal entries I've read. This is an amalgamation of "evidence" culled from sources as I've noticed a lot of people tossing about similar conjecture. This is my fun way of putting it all together.
To tell you the truth, I have no friggin' idea about Sam and my head has been hurting just thinking about it. I figure we will find out in due course, but in the mean time I just had to muck around with something. I don't even know what I want the ultimate truth about him to be. I am still struggling to find any good "out" for him at the moment.
That he is purely without a soul and completely lost may be somewhat more appealing than him being some sort of monster. At least, that way, there remains a brotherly bond of sorts. And I believed that bond existed in 6.07 as evidenced by Dean acting as Sam's moral compass. Though, now that I think about it, I may have just persuaded myself that it's all just a ruse. Argh....
There's just too much to ignore in episodes past. I love and hate that at the same time. "Love" because it's damn intriguing and fascinating, "hate" because whatever happens in the future all these things need to be addressed. They can't just erase seven episodes of "mysterious stuff" that Sam's been doing.
Or maybe they can. Maybe it's not so mysterious. Maybe it simply is Sam without a soul.
Whichever way, I can't wait to find out. In the meantime, if you have a case for "Sam, the lost soulless puppy" I'm all ears. :D
I still miss Sammy like nothing else. I'm enjoying the new direction the show is taking and how solid it is, but damn it hurts to know that we may not see our Sammy for a while. *sigh*
*heffa hugs to
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Date: 2010-11-10 03:15 pm (UTC)*dies laughing* I lost it here and of course the ridiculously hot body is a sign of how non human Sam is. Or it is not Sam? Or Sam's locked in there and he's desperately trying to get free. Or maybe he's just soulless and I have so many MAYBEs I don't know how to stop. Stop me.
I too rest my case. We're watching you, Sam Winchester! What a hardship. ;)
I agree and share all the last part. Oh, honey, you know my feelings on the amtter. Also *claps hands* this is how meta is done, with a look at the bright side, at the fun side. I guess we'll need it a lot before the season is over.
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Date: 2010-11-10 10:54 pm (UTC)Argh... I know! Too many possibilities. Sammy, Sammy always with the mysteries. *hearts him*
Thanks hun. I think we may just need a little smile every now and then to get us through this one.
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Date: 2010-11-10 03:55 pm (UTC)Very enjoyable way to re-cap all the evidence. Is it Friday yet?
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Date: 2010-11-10 10:56 pm (UTC)Hee! I thought I might come under fire for that line. I think the car was pretty special. I wish they hadn't killed it off so quickly. But that often do that with new characters.
It needs to be Friday NOW!! :D
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Date: 2010-11-11 12:54 am (UTC)Baby Impala squished by an angel *wipes tears* gone too soon. Cas so owes Sam for that. Dang well better get his soul back for him. The least he could do.
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Date: 2010-11-10 05:02 pm (UTC)The Veritas being confused about what Sam was made sense to me because she couldn't see that he had no soul and only knew he was resisting her, which - in her most possibly limited experiences - would mean that he was not human. After all, ALL humans have a soul, right?
Honestly, I think the evidence is flimsy - well except that hot bod,, lol!!
If you look at Sam's lies, they all seem to be doing one thing: telling people what they need to hear to avoid dealing with their emotions. I would think, that having no emotion himself, Sam would have some difficulty in dealing with upset people because upset people are unpredictable and unlogical.
Case in point - since we are presenting evidence :P - Sam reacted when Dean had a knife pulled on him, recognizing the real threat and putting his hands up to defend/placate his brother. But when Dean put the knife down and seemed calm, he was not prepared for the attack.
As for why he wanted Dean with him again? Well, Dean is cemented/imprinted as a concrete even in a soul-less Sam's mind. Just because he was not above letting Dean get turned to further their cause (when he knew there was a cure), does not deter from the fact that Dean is still important to him. He also trusts Dean. That is not an emotion, it is logic for him. So, no I don't think there is a hidden agenda to Sam wanting Dean back in his life :)
It will be interesting to see where Sera is going with this but for the sake of Sam's character, already so badly beaten over the past couple of seasons, I hope Sam is just soul-less and this isn't part of yet another hidden agenda. Because, really? All the lies are very wearying and make no sense for the man Sam was in the first three season.
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Date: 2010-11-10 11:09 pm (UTC)I sincerely hope we get a good exploration of Sam's character when this is sorted out. I just don't hold out a lot of hope for that.
And I SO want to believe that argument for Sam wanting Dean back in his life. It's what gave me hope at the end of the last episode. It's also why I am so torn. I'm figuring that a lot of this stuff is there to throw us off. My happy place would be if Sam instinctively knows he can trust Dean and is with him for that reason. I still struggle with why he left it so damn long to come forth. (though if there is a hidden agenda my theory is that it's not actually Sam driving that. I think I might stick to my Sam as "Other" theory until it's blown out of the water *g*).
Thanks hun!
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Date: 2010-11-10 11:26 pm (UTC)As for why he waited so long? Well, logically it made sense. Without his feelings, Sam would have no trouble doing what was best for Dean in the long run, which was letting him build a life with Lisa. Honestly, if Sam hadn't had to come forth when he did because of the risk to Dean's life, then Dean would have had a happy life. He would have gotten used to Sam being gone. I think it says much more that Sam DID come out of hiding when he knew his brother was in danger. Sam could have sent someone else to save Dean - he obviously does not trust anyone else to do so.
So grab a slice of happy pie and do what I do, stop looking for hidden agendas because, really, they are usually emotion driven. That is the biggest problem people have with Sam having no soul. They kept blaming him for behaving in a way, he wouldn't :)
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Date: 2010-11-11 02:13 am (UTC)Ok. I'll go with that. *gives Sammy the benefit of the doubt* :)
So grab a slice of happy pie and do what I do, stop looking for hidden agendas because, really, they are usually emotion driven.
You better believe they are emotion driven!! My damn lovely, complicated angsty show does that to me! (plus it's just a bit of fun..*g*)
That is the biggest problem people have with Sam having no soul. They kept blaming him for behaving in a way, he wouldn't :)
Above everything (and even though it probably sounds like I'm laying blame) I blame him for none of this. He's a damn hero in my book and he doesn't deserve this to be happening to him. I know there will be a very good reason for how they've set up Sam for this season. I actually think that by showing us a Sam that is nothing like him we are indeed learning more about him. And realising just how amazing he is.
Oh man, I'm blabbing your ear off here. Can't help it. Sam does that to me.
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Date: 2010-11-10 05:05 pm (UTC)Oh, Sam.
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Date: 2010-11-10 11:11 pm (UTC)I want to see a good side in all this but it's HARD!
*shares ice pack*
(It's weird that I've written all this and I really don't want this to be the case. Evidence that I've gone mad. Well, madder...*G*)
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Date: 2010-11-10 05:43 pm (UTC)I believe that before we reach a vertict we need to examine this evidence more throughly... This Hot Body of Evidence that is! I believe that the multiple layers of clothing on the defendant constitutes an obstruction of justice and recommend a restraining order against the clothing. The clothing must not come within 100 feet of the Hot Body of Evidence so that we the jurors may continue with our investigation.
Heh. You do raise many good points (the flickering street lamp being one thing that so far hasn't been addressed) Also, while Castiel says that the angels would have sensed Lucifer being out of the cage, our fine feathered friend didn't seem to notice when the demon Christian burst into the room (while they were soul searching Grandpa) Hmmm....
Still, you'd think the Alpha Vamp would notice something. Or maybe he just failed to mention it.
And while the lack of a soul seems to equal no moral compass, it's odd that Sam's actions have so often caused harm. You'd think he'd occasionally err on the side of doing the right thing. And what purpose does his withholding information like the fact that he doesn't sleep or that he knows something is wrong with him serve? It's one thing to be a blank slate. Another to make conscious decisions that inevitably lead to harming someone else- esp his own brother.
So, yeah, it could be that Lucifer sunk his claws in a little deeper than anyone is realizing just now. Or that Soulless!Sam is on a mission no one- not even Grandpa is privvy to. Or this Hot Body that stands before us IS something we've never seen before- Something not in any of Bobby's books. Something that confounds Alpha Vamp's who have seen it all. Something Crowley's stumbled upon and unleashed as a decoy to throw the heroes off balance.
This is still a mystery wrapped in an engima, wrapped in a well-toned 6' 4" package of Purty!
Much to ponder... and yeah, I think until all the facts are revealed we'll just have to settle back and examine this Hot Body of evidence all the more! (I for one am not complaining on that front)
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Date: 2010-11-11 02:22 am (UTC)Even though I've mentioned the devil in my title I'm not entirely sure Lucifer is still in him. I mean, there might be some "remains" but... yeah... I don't know.
It's one thing to be a blank slate. Another to make conscious decisions that inevitably lead to harming someone else- esp his own brother.
Yeah. That's one thing I am really struggling with. A blank slate wouldn't care and certainly wouldn't have a sense of satisfaction when his "plan" unfold. Sam would know that he wouldn't want to put Dean in danger. Even if he can't "feel" the love, surely he'd understand that you don't put your brother in the firing line. Though
I'm sure after a couple more episodes there will be even MOREto ponder.
I love my show. <333
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Date: 2010-11-10 05:53 pm (UTC)Other than that, I have no thoughts because I must return to gaze at pictures. Guh.
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Date: 2010-11-11 02:29 am (UTC)I'm all for them settling here and keeping it all manageable. I admit I will probably be miffed if some reason isn't given for all of Sam weird behaviour. I mean, I know it could all be down to him not having a soul. We know nothing yet of what it is to be without a soul in this 'verse, so yeah... I will buy that (as I did straight after the episode).
*gazes at pictures with you* <333
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Date: 2010-11-10 06:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-11 02:31 am (UTC)And um... yep... my love shows eh?? :D :D
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Date: 2010-11-11 02:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-10 09:59 pm (UTC)look at the picturesread... It really is all kinds of mysterious and I hope they won't leave us with "cheap answers".But there is one thing the (picture) evidence shows clearly: Sam is hot! With or without soul, monster or human... just hot!! *tries to get her eyes of the pics*
;)
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Date: 2010-11-11 02:34 am (UTC)And SAM IS DAMN HOT!!! No argument there! <333
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Date: 2010-11-10 11:25 pm (UTC)I think there is more to Sam being different this season than just a missing soul.
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Date: 2010-11-11 03:38 am (UTC)I've always suspended my disbelief in regards to the condition of the body after Hell. Dean was looking pretty damn good when he got back. I figured Sam was "healed", in terms of him body, the same way Dean was. So who ever raised him worked the same mojo
Though interesting about him being permanently changed due to drinking demon blood. I hadn't considered that.
I have to hope though that there is a way back for Sam. Especially if he's not human any more.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'm looking forward to finding it all out.
:)
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Date: 2010-11-10 11:46 pm (UTC)That, my friend, had me convinced in like two seconds flat XD
But I love this post, funny and yet speculative, so thanks for sharing this work with us. Plus I agree, that although I like this new direction of the show - it is very well built (I have still to ramble about this aspect of the show in my lj *ouch*), I miss Sammy as much as Dean does. Desperately: yesterday I saw a couple of scenes from "Skin" and Sam's "Where's my brother" to the shapeshifter was so awwwww. Oh, and Dean's "Well, he's not stupid. He picked the handsome one" (XD) made me remember how much I miss young!Dean too :(
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Date: 2010-11-11 03:42 am (UTC)And yes, looking back on those scenes just kills doesn't it?
Knowing their bond has such depth and history helps me have hope for the future. Hope that we will see that care again. (soon would be nice...)
Thanks for dropping by. :)
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Date: 2010-11-11 02:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-11 04:47 am (UTC)And I agree.... poor Sammy....
:)
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Date: 2010-11-11 07:44 am (UTC)incredibly HOTversion of him I do rather miss the puppy eyes of yore *sniffs again*no subject
Date: 2010-11-11 11:34 am (UTC)Hopefully soon....
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Date: 2010-11-11 08:41 am (UTC)Very interesting points, I personally would love just soul-less Sam, it would be enough for me and give me hope, however, seeing it all laid out like this? I can't help but wonder if there is more going on.
Veritas doesn't bother me that much, she might class a being without a soul as not human simply because without the soul her powers don't work and she's never encountered anything like that before, so I'm not bothered about her calling Sam "not human"
Crowley and the bones? Yes, all that and the lying sits badly, makes me think Sam already knew he hadn't got a soul and that Crowley somehow or other has access to it. Using the baby and Dean as bait could be explained away as Sam not having a conscience, which is the best way at the moment I can think of to address a soul less human.
The flickering light could be explained simply as a faulty bulb - a massive red herring OR it's worse than originally thought. Sam didn't wake up there at Lisa's, he's said he woke up in a field somewhere, so we have no idea about the damage that was done around the site, so in that case IF the bulb was flickering? Then that's really bad as that would be ALL Sam and not the residue of what brought him back as was previously theorised about.
However, it's the smirk as Dean was turned that gets me, that and those ropes, I'm not sure if it's a deliberate acting choice, more red herrings, or even just a director's notion of added tension for that particular scene, but there's just something so menacing and threatening about those two, but I could just be over sensitive to that. I could see a soul less Sam being fascinated by the vamp turning Dean, but the pleasure was just too 'off' for me, but I'm willing to give them a pass on that and the ropes if they do decide to go with a missing soul as the only thing wrong with Sam. I don't think I'll enjoy an evil Sam or a Sam who gets the blame for everything, so far I'm enjoying the mystery as there are plenty of things to puzzle over. It's the conclusion that's worrying me.
Great piece though, I've really enjoyed seeing it all laid out here. ♥
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Date: 2010-11-11 11:52 am (UTC)It's the "red herring" things that worries me. Well, not worries as such, but I'd probably be disappointed if they made those decisions purely to lead us astray. I know a show needs it to heighten it's drama but when we're dealing with a character I think these things need to mean something.
When Sam watched Cas look for the soul on the boy it was with detached interest. That's what I would have expected when he was watching Dean be turned. It could have been cold without the hidden glee.
I think there are certainly things that could be explained away - as you've done here.
The bulb is interesting, especially if he arrived there after he woke up in the field (I actually believe him when he said that's where he woke up). So yes if he went from there to Lisa's.... ack!! It suggests he does because it looked like Dean had just arrived there. Though no time line is given for that.
I most definitely don't want an evil!Sam. I have no idea why I've presented all this when I really don't want a Sam who is making bad decisions and will later on be blamed for it. If it is more than soulless Sam I hope that what ever is motivating him gives our boy an plausible "out".
If it is purely soulless Sam I'm going to want reasons for some of the stuff above otherwise it all becomes a gimmick.
Hmm... I just had a thought. I wonder if Sam's made some sort of deal to save Adam's soul? As in Adam's soul is being held for ransom the same way we think Sam's is being held. Sorry, totally random... but I wonder if they'll keep Adam in the picture?? At least that will give Sam some sort of honourable reason for acting like this. Hmmm... Maybe he's been given a "mission" like Grandpa has.
Damn them!! I want answers!! NOW! :)
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Date: 2010-11-11 12:36 pm (UTC)ADAM!
Yes, now that's a good thought, there was much talk of what happened to Adam in the fandom and yet show had decided to stay perfectly mute when it comes to him, so you could be dead on the money here and there is yet another big reveal to come over the missing Winchester - good call.
*nods* Yes, so far I do believe Sam when he said he woke up in a field, strange because he's lying about so many other things and yet that one? Just seems true, but of course it might not be and show time lines have always been hinkey.
Bobby is still another sticking point with me, Sam may have not had the soul to make the good judgement call about telling Dean that he was alive, I still want to know why Bobby stuck to that, getting Dean out of hunting? Sorry, I just don't see it. Grief could have totally destroyed both Dean AND Lisa and I have to say I wept buckets inside when Lisa told Dean her own truthful belief, that Dean would never be happy while Sam was alive - GAH - that hurt so much, why did they do that?
As much as I wants my answers NOW, I have to say I am enjoying all the theories that are going around, especially in these safe places like your journal where there's so much talk about everything with no favouritism. ♥
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Date: 2010-11-11 12:56 pm (UTC)And Bobby. Indeed. That one's a very tricky one. I wondered if maybe Sam had some sway over him... being linked to Crowley and all (wow, that would indeed be nasty. Somehow holding Bobby's soul for randsome too) Bobby has been very reluctant to help Dean find out more about Sam. Maybe that out burst of his in 6.04 wasn't just him letting off steam.. maybe he didn't want to delve into that too deeply.
Oh man /o\ too much. I think Bobby would have found a way of helping Dean if he knew Sam was evol. :) Most definitely. I think poor writing can be blamed for that one (maybe...)
And Lisa's words were so sad.... but how true they were. Let's hope they can bust that and see those boys happy together again one day. :)
especially in these safe places like your journal where there's so much talk about everything with no favouritism
Oh yay. That's nice. You know, I just can't understand getting all heated over everything and character bashing just makes no sense to me. It's wonderful fun tossing around theories - knowing that with each passing episode they'll be blown away. OR maybe we'll get something right. :D
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Date: 2010-11-11 10:39 am (UTC)Remember the time he told Dean he doesn't pay for it?
* sigh* *iz sad for the real Sam*
And that pros shouldn't have been able to even walk.
*snark*
Can we have more pics of that ridiculously hot body?
* greedy bytchh slinks away*
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Date: 2010-11-11 11:55 am (UTC)Yep! And that's why it's totally out of character for Sam pay for it. And here we were thinking it just gave us a chance to gawp at his hotness!!
Can we have more pics of that ridiculously hot body?
Hee! I'll leave that for the professional picspammers... :)
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Date: 2010-11-11 12:21 pm (UTC)I couldn't stop laughing at this one. So, Sam's hot body is evidence to his out of Sammy behavior. I love it! ;)
I miss our Sammy too, and those puppy eyes in the first pic makes me want to kiss him senseless. But I'm really enjoying this new Sam, I find him quite fascinating ;)
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Date: 2010-11-11 01:21 pm (UTC)Hee! We certainly haven't seen him flaunt it like that before! Definitely not Sammy behaviour.... *g* (lucky for us..)
Oh those puppy eyes are just too adorable. He's like a little boy who needs a massive hug. I'd sure give him one.... :)
(love the icon. I've nothing to match that I'm afraid.)
xx
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Date: 2010-11-12 12:57 am (UTC)THANK YOU.
Lacking a soul just doesn't ring true, or at least that's not all that's going on here. I'm not sure exactly what is in store for us, but there's no way Show would give up the goods on Sam so early in the season. Also, absolutely everything you said, haha.
I like Sam and Dean fairly equally, but I've just seen an awful lot of fans - Sam Fans especially - really latch on to Soulless Sam Theory mostly because it excuses him from his bad behaviour, but I don't think that does the writers justice. (And plus, Sam is quite intriguing this season!)
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Date: 2010-11-12 02:20 pm (UTC)Anyway..
It's kinda weird - I call myself a Sam girl (though I also love both bro's equally) and yet I'm touting the theory that Sam either has an evil agenda or he's not even really Sam. I'd love to be able to go with the merely soulless angle but there's just too much going on for it to be just that. Though everything might be in there to lead us to the wrong conclusions.
But you're right. I think it might be too early on to give us the full story.
Ack! Just have to be patient I suppose. New episode very soon. :D
Thanks so much for dropping by. :D
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Date: 2010-11-14 11:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-15 08:57 am (UTC)I'm still waiting to see if this pans out.
I think maybe not. Which might not be a bad thing.. :)