Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury...
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ash48Lost soulless puppy or devil in disguise?
I present the case for Sam Winchester: a devil in disguise.
Members of the jury, we have had seven episodes from which to cull character evidence for this extremely hot, *koff* I mean, extraordinarily handsome young defendant before you. Is he merely a man who has been returned from Hell without his soul, or is he a man on a mission - a man with a hidden agenda? Perhaps, even an evil agenda.
Or maybe he isn't even a man at all?
Ok. Ok. He does have those damnable puppy eyes. But don't let that distract you from objectively...
Awww, he couldn't hurt a... *koff* Members of the jury, please disregard that momentary interruption. Now where was I?
Oh, yes. Is Sam Winchester more than merely Sammy returned from Hell without a soul? The following evidence may reveal he has a hidden agenda and may, in fact, reveal he is something other than purely human. (*sniff*)
Exhibit A: The Smirk.
The patented smirk has replaced the once familiar puppy eyes. No longer do those eyes reflect the depth of Sam's soulfulness, but rather, his seeming malevolence. It's not a look devoid of feeling: it's a look of smug satisfaction.
Exhibit B. His Actions:
i) Stopping Dean from killing Crowley when he had the chance in 6.04. This is certainly looking more suspicious now, eh? Especially when coupled with the line: "A deal's a deal." A man without feelings shouldn't have cared what Dean did here. Nor should he have been so quick off the mark to stop Dean.
ii). Luring Dean into hunts. Notice how he "needed help with the baby" and how he made the "are you with me Dean?" entreaty at the end of 6.07? It wasn't a question. It was a challenge.
What's so important that Sam needs Dean to be around I wonder? Especially after a whole year of not needing him around. Sure, you can argue he wants Dean as his moral compass. But why now? It is my contention that he's still lying to Dean. His soullessness has been "discovered" and he's now using a different tactic. It could be argued that self-preservation is an instinct - not an emotion - and therefore, justified. But being found out could be driven by fear. And fear, surely, is a valid emotion.
iii). His CAR. Nuff said. (It's an "action" because he actually made a conscious decision to purchase that abomination :P) sorry![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
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Exhibit C: His Words.
i) Lying. A lot. Saying he didn't use the baby as bait in 6.02, saying he wasn't aware of the cure for vampirism, saying he had Dean's back. Also he physically worked against that truth spell - that little choke was NO accident, I tell you! He's definitely hiding something.
ii) Deceit. He keeps withholding pertinent information from Dean, like the fact that he was back from Hell, or that he hasn't slept in over a year, or that he feels nothing...
Exhibit D: His "Super" Human Abilities.
i) Increased strength Notice how easily he freed himself from his bonds in 6.07 with the words: "You're not going to hold me Dean. Not anywhere. Not the panic room"?. This could be interpreted one of two ways: either that he knows Dean won't do those things out of a lingering sense of sympathy OR that the panic room just won't physically be able to hold him now.
ii) Heightened hearing. In 6.05 he heard the vamp falling before he hit the vehicle.
iii) No need for sleep. (No wonder that prostitute was in awe).
iv) Flickering lights when he appeared outside Lisa's window. See, you'd forgotten about that, huh?
v) Resisting Veritas Not only was Sam immune to her powers, she even went so far as to ask "what are you?" suggesting that he is not human. It could be argued that a man without a soul is something other than human - maybe even a human turning into a monster?
vi) Ridiculously hot body
C'mon! I rest my case. :)
This rather silly post is brought to you by a number of recent journal entries I've read. This is an amalgamation of "evidence" culled from sources as I've noticed a lot of people tossing about similar conjecture. This is my fun way of putting it all together.
To tell you the truth, I have no friggin' idea about Sam and my head has been hurting just thinking about it. I figure we will find out in due course, but in the mean time I just had to muck around with something. I don't even know what I want the ultimate truth about him to be. I am still struggling to find any good "out" for him at the moment.
That he is purely without a soul and completely lost may be somewhat more appealing than him being some sort of monster. At least, that way, there remains a brotherly bond of sorts. And I believed that bond existed in 6.07 as evidenced by Dean acting as Sam's moral compass. Though, now that I think about it, I may have just persuaded myself that it's all just a ruse. Argh....
There's just too much to ignore in episodes past. I love and hate that at the same time. "Love" because it's damn intriguing and fascinating, "hate" because whatever happens in the future all these things need to be addressed. They can't just erase seven episodes of "mysterious stuff" that Sam's been doing.
Or maybe they can. Maybe it's not so mysterious. Maybe it simply is Sam without a soul.
Whichever way, I can't wait to find out. In the meantime, if you have a case for "Sam, the lost soulless puppy" I'm all ears. :D
I still miss Sammy like nothing else. I'm enjoying the new direction the show is taking and how solid it is, but damn it hurts to know that we may not see our Sammy for a while. *sigh*
*heffa hugs tomaichan808 for the red pen.
I present the case for Sam Winchester: a devil in disguise.
Members of the jury, we have had seven episodes from which to cull character evidence for this extremely hot, *koff* I mean, extraordinarily handsome young defendant before you. Is he merely a man who has been returned from Hell without his soul, or is he a man on a mission - a man with a hidden agenda? Perhaps, even an evil agenda.
Or maybe he isn't even a man at all?
Ok. Ok. He does have those damnable puppy eyes. But don't let that distract you from objectively...
Awww, he couldn't hurt a... *koff* Members of the jury, please disregard that momentary interruption. Now where was I?
Oh, yes. Is Sam Winchester more than merely Sammy returned from Hell without a soul? The following evidence may reveal he has a hidden agenda and may, in fact, reveal he is something other than purely human. (*sniff*)
Exhibit A: The Smirk.
The patented smirk has replaced the once familiar puppy eyes. No longer do those eyes reflect the depth of Sam's soulfulness, but rather, his seeming malevolence. It's not a look devoid of feeling: it's a look of smug satisfaction.
Exhibit B. His Actions:
i) Stopping Dean from killing Crowley when he had the chance in 6.04. This is certainly looking more suspicious now, eh? Especially when coupled with the line: "A deal's a deal." A man without feelings shouldn't have cared what Dean did here. Nor should he have been so quick off the mark to stop Dean.
ii). Luring Dean into hunts. Notice how he "needed help with the baby" and how he made the "are you with me Dean?" entreaty at the end of 6.07? It wasn't a question. It was a challenge.
What's so important that Sam needs Dean to be around I wonder? Especially after a whole year of not needing him around. Sure, you can argue he wants Dean as his moral compass. But why now? It is my contention that he's still lying to Dean. His soullessness has been "discovered" and he's now using a different tactic. It could be argued that self-preservation is an instinct - not an emotion - and therefore, justified. But being found out could be driven by fear. And fear, surely, is a valid emotion.
iii). His CAR. Nuff said. (It's an "action" because he actually made a conscious decision to purchase that abomination :P) sorry
redteekal Exhibit C: His Words.
i) Lying. A lot. Saying he didn't use the baby as bait in 6.02, saying he wasn't aware of the cure for vampirism, saying he had Dean's back. Also he physically worked against that truth spell - that little choke was NO accident, I tell you! He's definitely hiding something.
ii) Deceit. He keeps withholding pertinent information from Dean, like the fact that he was back from Hell, or that he hasn't slept in over a year, or that he feels nothing...
Exhibit D: His "Super" Human Abilities.
i) Increased strength Notice how easily he freed himself from his bonds in 6.07 with the words: "You're not going to hold me Dean. Not anywhere. Not the panic room"?. This could be interpreted one of two ways: either that he knows Dean won't do those things out of a lingering sense of sympathy OR that the panic room just won't physically be able to hold him now.
ii) Heightened hearing. In 6.05 he heard the vamp falling before he hit the vehicle.
iii) No need for sleep. (No wonder that prostitute was in awe).
iv) Flickering lights when he appeared outside Lisa's window. See, you'd forgotten about that, huh?
v) Resisting Veritas Not only was Sam immune to her powers, she even went so far as to ask "what are you?" suggesting that he is not human. It could be argued that a man without a soul is something other than human - maybe even a human turning into a monster?
vi) Ridiculously hot body
C'mon! I rest my case. :)
This rather silly post is brought to you by a number of recent journal entries I've read. This is an amalgamation of "evidence" culled from sources as I've noticed a lot of people tossing about similar conjecture. This is my fun way of putting it all together.
To tell you the truth, I have no friggin' idea about Sam and my head has been hurting just thinking about it. I figure we will find out in due course, but in the mean time I just had to muck around with something. I don't even know what I want the ultimate truth about him to be. I am still struggling to find any good "out" for him at the moment.
That he is purely without a soul and completely lost may be somewhat more appealing than him being some sort of monster. At least, that way, there remains a brotherly bond of sorts. And I believed that bond existed in 6.07 as evidenced by Dean acting as Sam's moral compass. Though, now that I think about it, I may have just persuaded myself that it's all just a ruse. Argh....
There's just too much to ignore in episodes past. I love and hate that at the same time. "Love" because it's damn intriguing and fascinating, "hate" because whatever happens in the future all these things need to be addressed. They can't just erase seven episodes of "mysterious stuff" that Sam's been doing.
Or maybe they can. Maybe it's not so mysterious. Maybe it simply is Sam without a soul.
Whichever way, I can't wait to find out. In the meantime, if you have a case for "Sam, the lost soulless puppy" I'm all ears. :D
I still miss Sammy like nothing else. I'm enjoying the new direction the show is taking and how solid it is, but damn it hurts to know that we may not see our Sammy for a while. *sigh*
*heffa hugs to
maichan808 for the red pen.
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Date: 2010-11-10 05:02 pm (UTC)The Veritas being confused about what Sam was made sense to me because she couldn't see that he had no soul and only knew he was resisting her, which - in her most possibly limited experiences - would mean that he was not human. After all, ALL humans have a soul, right?
Honestly, I think the evidence is flimsy - well except that hot bod,, lol!!
If you look at Sam's lies, they all seem to be doing one thing: telling people what they need to hear to avoid dealing with their emotions. I would think, that having no emotion himself, Sam would have some difficulty in dealing with upset people because upset people are unpredictable and unlogical.
Case in point - since we are presenting evidence :P - Sam reacted when Dean had a knife pulled on him, recognizing the real threat and putting his hands up to defend/placate his brother. But when Dean put the knife down and seemed calm, he was not prepared for the attack.
As for why he wanted Dean with him again? Well, Dean is cemented/imprinted as a concrete even in a soul-less Sam's mind. Just because he was not above letting Dean get turned to further their cause (when he knew there was a cure), does not deter from the fact that Dean is still important to him. He also trusts Dean. That is not an emotion, it is logic for him. So, no I don't think there is a hidden agenda to Sam wanting Dean back in his life :)
It will be interesting to see where Sera is going with this but for the sake of Sam's character, already so badly beaten over the past couple of seasons, I hope Sam is just soul-less and this isn't part of yet another hidden agenda. Because, really? All the lies are very wearying and make no sense for the man Sam was in the first three season.
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Date: 2010-11-10 11:09 pm (UTC)I sincerely hope we get a good exploration of Sam's character when this is sorted out. I just don't hold out a lot of hope for that.
And I SO want to believe that argument for Sam wanting Dean back in his life. It's what gave me hope at the end of the last episode. It's also why I am so torn. I'm figuring that a lot of this stuff is there to throw us off. My happy place would be if Sam instinctively knows he can trust Dean and is with him for that reason. I still struggle with why he left it so damn long to come forth. (though if there is a hidden agenda my theory is that it's not actually Sam driving that. I think I might stick to my Sam as "Other" theory until it's blown out of the water *g*).
Thanks hun!
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Date: 2010-11-10 11:26 pm (UTC)As for why he waited so long? Well, logically it made sense. Without his feelings, Sam would have no trouble doing what was best for Dean in the long run, which was letting him build a life with Lisa. Honestly, if Sam hadn't had to come forth when he did because of the risk to Dean's life, then Dean would have had a happy life. He would have gotten used to Sam being gone. I think it says much more that Sam DID come out of hiding when he knew his brother was in danger. Sam could have sent someone else to save Dean - he obviously does not trust anyone else to do so.
So grab a slice of happy pie and do what I do, stop looking for hidden agendas because, really, they are usually emotion driven. That is the biggest problem people have with Sam having no soul. They kept blaming him for behaving in a way, he wouldn't :)
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Date: 2010-11-11 02:13 am (UTC)Ok. I'll go with that. *gives Sammy the benefit of the doubt* :)
So grab a slice of happy pie and do what I do, stop looking for hidden agendas because, really, they are usually emotion driven.
You better believe they are emotion driven!! My damn lovely, complicated angsty show does that to me! (plus it's just a bit of fun..*g*)
That is the biggest problem people have with Sam having no soul. They kept blaming him for behaving in a way, he wouldn't :)
Above everything (and even though it probably sounds like I'm laying blame) I blame him for none of this. He's a damn hero in my book and he doesn't deserve this to be happening to him. I know there will be a very good reason for how they've set up Sam for this season. I actually think that by showing us a Sam that is nothing like him we are indeed learning more about him. And realising just how amazing he is.
Oh man, I'm blabbing your ear off here. Can't help it. Sam does that to me.
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