A question of comfort.
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ash48This has been haunting me. Of everything that was shown and said in 7.01 this, for me, was the most unsettling.
Lucifer saying..."Hi, Sam - long time no spooning".
It's seems like such a strange thing to say, but wow... what a thing to say.
Spooning, to me, is an act of comfort and security. It's one of my most fav things. To wrap up, or be wrapped in, someone you love and care about.
It's why I actually had trouble understanding what he said at first. Spooning? But that's so personal and...
Oh.
My initial image was of Lucifer spooning Sam. The thing I find so unsettling about Lucifer wrapping himself around Sam is that it makes such a mockery of comfort and security. There's just something about that that makes me shiver.
It also puts them in bed together, which suggests a whole HEAP of things. I don't know if we were supposed to draw that conclusion (non con/rape) but I went there I have to say. The comment was just too pointed for me not to.
I then wondered if he may have been referring to this scene in Free to be You and Me, when he pretended to be Jessica. (?)
It's almost spooning. Not quite, but I wondered if he was, in fact, referring back the first time they made contact? When he was in bed with Sam, pretending to be Jessica.
I wonder how many times Lucifer pretened to be Jessica in the pit? Or Dean? Mary? John? Someone that Sam could gain comfort from...but ultimately didn't. *sniff*
It really brought home to me just how alone Sam actually was. And not just tortured. Comforted. I wonder if he came to rely on Lucifer for comfort in some twisted way? Or found the spooning/comfort the worst kind of torture?
I may be reaching a bit far here, but I do think the spooning comment was in reference to something that was occurring in the pit regularly.
And did you notice Sam's massive flinch in that scene? Spoke volumes of how damn terrified Sam was.
(there's gotta be fic out there on this.? The idea of Sam hurting and then being comforted by Lucifer.
OH SAM! :(( )
Lucifer saying..."Hi, Sam - long time no spooning".
It's seems like such a strange thing to say, but wow... what a thing to say.
Spooning, to me, is an act of comfort and security. It's one of my most fav things. To wrap up, or be wrapped in, someone you love and care about.
It's why I actually had trouble understanding what he said at first. Spooning? But that's so personal and...
Oh.
My initial image was of Lucifer spooning Sam. The thing I find so unsettling about Lucifer wrapping himself around Sam is that it makes such a mockery of comfort and security. There's just something about that that makes me shiver.
It also puts them in bed together, which suggests a whole HEAP of things. I don't know if we were supposed to draw that conclusion (non con/rape) but I went there I have to say. The comment was just too pointed for me not to.
I then wondered if he may have been referring to this scene in Free to be You and Me, when he pretended to be Jessica. (?)
It's almost spooning. Not quite, but I wondered if he was, in fact, referring back the first time they made contact? When he was in bed with Sam, pretending to be Jessica.
I wonder how many times Lucifer pretened to be Jessica in the pit? Or Dean? Mary? John? Someone that Sam could gain comfort from...but ultimately didn't. *sniff*
It really brought home to me just how alone Sam actually was. And not just tortured. Comforted. I wonder if he came to rely on Lucifer for comfort in some twisted way? Or found the spooning/comfort the worst kind of torture?
I may be reaching a bit far here, but I do think the spooning comment was in reference to something that was occurring in the pit regularly.
And did you notice Sam's massive flinch in that scene? Spoke volumes of how damn terrified Sam was.
(there's gotta be fic out there on this.? The idea of Sam hurting and then being comforted by Lucifer.
OH SAM! :(( )
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Date: 2011-09-30 03:17 pm (UTC)Do you want me to go one step further and say "Sam saw the meat hooks in his hallucinations of hell because part of his torture was watching and re-watching Alistair and Dean?"
Nah, you don't need that pet theory running around too! - Hah!
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Date: 2011-09-30 03:28 pm (UTC)I would love to think Show even considered this. That Sam didn't actually suffer any meat hook torture, it was purely Luci playing with his mind.
OOhh.. it's moments like these I wish I could write. ;)
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Date: 2011-09-30 03:37 pm (UTC)So looking forward to the next episode, really want to watch it early tomorrow but I don't think I'll find time, so I'm kind of hiding out again as usual.
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Date: 2011-09-30 03:42 pm (UTC)Yeah. Not sure when I will get to watch either. Might be an evening viewing (so long after it's aired in the US) as hubby is out then so I can indulge. *g*
(Hee... I asked him if he wanted to watch it with me last week and he said he'd rather poke his eyes out with a sharp stick. Sheesh).