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[ash48]

I am considering (considering) opening a topic for discussion on whether destiel will become canon in the show sometime soon.

What do you think?

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[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

My issue with the whole situation is, I would want the relationship to be portrayed consistently and with respect, and I honestly don't think this group of writers is capable of that - given that they've *never* displayed any consistent vision, respect or affection for any of their characters. When you look at a show and can say, "[X] writes Dean this way, and [Y] writes Dean that way," that's not going to result in anything upliftingly ground-breaking.

To the members of the LGBT community who want to see the television industry move forward in their onscreen portrayals of bisexuals, I'd ask, "Do you really want to give that over to a bunch of frat boys whose idea of a loving nod to fandom is BECKY ROSEN?"

That said... yes, I'd be interested in reading a thoughtful discussion of the situation, though I suspect that might be no more possible than Supernatural's writers being able to create a ongoing layered, respectful, consistent M/M relationship.

[auntmo9.livejournal.com]

Hijacking your comment, but only because I agree with much of it. While I don't think TPTB will ever go through with it, if they do, it would need to be done as you said, with consistency and respect. They dont always manage to that with Sam and Dean's brother relationship. They certainly don't do it with Dean and Cas' friendship, most recent episode as evidence with Dean being all pissy and throwing up Sam as an example to Cas as someone who is there for him. Really writers? Dean has never had an issue with Sam not being there for him ever, not even this season?

On top of all that, I would prefer Show to focus more on family and friendship in general when not dealing with the supernatural,rather than romantic ones, but that is just a personal preference. I wouldn't be up in arms too much if they added that element,as long as it was done right.I am just not sure it would be.

[chemm80]

Yes. The Dean/Cas relationship (which I do not ship, for the record) has been handled very inconsistently and if the writers have romanticized/sexualized it at all, I call it queerbaiting and fanbaiting. They do it because they think fandom likes it, with no real idea of why fandom is interested in the relationship. Or how they're being offensive to the (rather substantial, I'd guess) portion of fandom who fall under the LGBTQ umbrella.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

You make a point that others have raised as well and I think it's an extremely good one. And it really makes me want to say no no no. I do not trust these writers to do justice to that story line. I adore my show, but I also am well aware of their limitations (and probably the restrictions they are working under).

I feel like there has been some good progress in some areas (Charlie being one of them), and I would like to think it could continue to do so. But taking that giant leap and doing it sensitively and meaningfully, I think, isn't possible atm.

I'd be happy if they concentrated their talents and efforts on getting the story lines that they are exploring at the moment in some sort of focus. I'd also be happy if they continue to explore the nature of male relationships that don't necessarily have to be about sex. I think there's still a lot to be explored there.

Thanks for your thoughts.
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