I wanted to first of all hug the stuffing out of you and I came back with that intention... and holy heck, woman! Over a hundred comments on this post! That's amazing!
The only thing I've been prompted to add seeing your very sweet reply is that I realised something just the other week (and it's funny how it took me so long to come to this conclusion; I guess you don't notice things until they smack you in the face). And I guess you could put this down to my solid introduction to this fandom being Wincest -but I know a ton of others who hold D/C as their OTP to end all, yadda yadda who also feel the same- but I have a preference in my reading of fics and you reminded me of it with your final lines. If I'm reading a D/C fic, then it only rings completely true to me if despite the pairing, Sam is the entire utter focus and soul of Dean's world. He's the floppy-haired, freakishly-huge, ever-smiling dead center of Dean's wildly spinning universe and Dean couldn't possibly be prouder of him or adore him more. Anything less than that and I close the page.
And I honestly believe this is something the show will honour until it's final gasp; because whether Dean and Sam get the well deserved reward of being able to ride off into the sunset or they go down swinging and end up finding their peace in heaven, there's nowhere they would close the series out that wouldn't have them together. And so many D/C fans understand, embrace and enjoy this fact; should anything become canon between Dean and Cas, I strongly believe it wouldn't take away from that. It would simply be something that's present in it's own quiet way, not a 'pick sides and see who you end up with... but you can only pick one!' situation.
Because the sane, rational multitudes (we don't count the crazies or the haters here) who peer at Dean and Cas with curious expectation, love Sam with as much fire and devotion as his big bro does. He should never be sidelined. :)
I have to say that comment filled my heart with warm fuzzies. :D You probably know I'm a die hard Sam!gal (who adores Dean), so I always think the D/C stuff is about shutting Sam out. I mean, I've never read any so I have no idea hwo Sam in portrayed in those fics, but I always think it's going to be like on the show in the eps that Dean and Cas are heavily featured - and that's with Sam going off and doing his own thing and not being part of their story. But I am sure they are not all like that (as you've confirmed).
It's the same with how I feel about them ending the series. If they do decide to make D/C canon I would be desperate to know how Sam features in the scenario, because everything we know about Dean is that Sam is pretty much his whole world. I think it's possible that Sam can still be Dean's world even when he's in love with someone (though so far that has to be proved...;D).
I haven't dipped my toe in the D/C world at all so it's actually really nice to know that there is some parts of it where Sam isn't an annoying little brother that Dean forgets about because he has Cas.
(and if there was a story that has D/C with lots of Sam I might actually give it a go...*g*)
Thanks hun! Oh and yes - I have been blown away by how many comments there are and all have them have been so civil (even when holding different views...)
It's a very, very common misconception that Destiel fans wish for Sam to disappear. I have no idea who started it or who continues it to this day (trolls mostly, I'm guessing), but if you talk to fans that's almost never the case. Nearly every D/C fic I have ever read -excluding the pure PWP in some cases- has Sam in the story to a very decent capacity and in every fic -barring some highly disturbing AUs that I've had the displeasure of coming across- Sam and Dean's relationship is identical to that on the show. We talk about how much we adore Sam in posts, meta and picspams outside of fic as well - and an ideal world for a lot of people is Team Free Will with no one forgotten. So much love. :)
Your open mind is your best trait. Never lose it. And now I'm putting this poor thread to bed. *g*
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Date: 2013-05-12 08:53 am (UTC)The only thing I've been prompted to add seeing your very sweet reply is that I realised something just the other week (and it's funny how it took me so long to come to this conclusion; I guess you don't notice things until they smack you in the face). And I guess you could put this down to my solid introduction to this fandom being Wincest -but I know a ton of others who hold D/C as their OTP to end all, yadda yadda who also feel the same- but I have a preference in my reading of fics and you reminded me of it with your final lines. If I'm reading a D/C fic, then it only rings completely true to me if despite the pairing, Sam is the entire utter focus and soul of Dean's world. He's the floppy-haired, freakishly-huge, ever-smiling dead center of Dean's wildly spinning universe and Dean couldn't possibly be prouder of him or adore him more. Anything less than that and I close the page.
And I honestly believe this is something the show will honour until it's final gasp; because whether Dean and Sam get the well deserved reward of being able to ride off into the sunset or they go down swinging and end up finding their peace in heaven, there's nowhere they would close the series out that wouldn't have them together. And so many D/C fans understand, embrace and enjoy this fact; should anything become canon between Dean and Cas, I strongly believe it wouldn't take away from that. It would simply be something that's present in it's own quiet way, not a 'pick sides and see who you end up with... but you can only pick one!' situation.
Because the sane, rational multitudes (we don't count the crazies or the haters here) who peer at Dean and Cas with curious expectation, love Sam with as much fire and devotion as his big bro does. He should never be sidelined. :)
Shutting up now. :P
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Date: 2013-05-13 01:41 pm (UTC)I have to say that comment filled my heart with warm fuzzies. :D You probably know I'm a die hard Sam!gal (who adores Dean), so I always think the D/C stuff is about shutting Sam out. I mean, I've never read any so I have no idea hwo Sam in portrayed in those fics, but I always think it's going to be like on the show in the eps that Dean and Cas are heavily featured - and that's with Sam going off and doing his own thing and not being part of their story. But I am sure they are not all like that (as you've confirmed).
It's the same with how I feel about them ending the series. If they do decide to make D/C canon I would be desperate to know how Sam features in the scenario, because everything we know about Dean is that Sam is pretty much his whole world. I think it's possible that Sam can still be Dean's world even when he's in love with someone (though so far that has to be proved...;D).
I haven't dipped my toe in the D/C world at all so it's actually really nice to know that there is some parts of it where Sam isn't an annoying little brother that Dean forgets about because he has Cas.
(and if there was a story that has D/C with lots of Sam I might actually give it a go...*g*)
Thanks hun! Oh and yes - I have been blown away by how many comments there are and all have them have been so civil (even when holding different views...)
xxx
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Date: 2013-05-13 03:57 pm (UTC)It's a very, very common misconception that Destiel fans wish for Sam to disappear. I have no idea who started it or who continues it to this day (trolls mostly, I'm guessing), but if you talk to fans that's almost never the case. Nearly every D/C fic I have ever read -excluding the pure PWP in some cases- has Sam in the story to a very decent capacity and in every fic -barring some highly disturbing AUs that I've had the displeasure of coming across- Sam and Dean's relationship is identical to that on the show. We talk about how much we adore Sam in posts, meta and picspams outside of fic as well - and an ideal world for a lot of people is Team Free Will with no one forgotten. So much love. :)
Your open mind is your best trait. Never lose it. And now I'm putting this poor thread to bed. *g*