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I am considering (considering) opening a topic for discussion on whether destiel will become canon in the show sometime soon.

What do you think?

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[rhymephile.livejournal.com]

Left alone as the show in your first paragraph, the show I fell in love with, then Dean being bi-sexual 'in canon' would have been bloody perfect - tell you the truth in my head canon? Dean is and always HAS been bi-sexual.

He is bisexual in my head canon as well, because despite his hypermasculine tendencies, there is definitely a softness and kindness there underneath.

I do agree with you that I would have loved to have them explore Dean's bisexuality much earlier. In fact, to touch on Sam for a minute, I always thought he was imbued with more traditionally "feminine" characteristics. He was never as interested in constantly chasing women and rolled his eyes at Dean's conquests; he was always the one who would talk to the victims first because of his empathy; he's the one who left the tough, manly hunting life to get educated; and a number of other things. I would have thought it would have made more sense -- if this had ever been their plan in the first place -- to focus on him.

There's so many sides of the argument now that are getting all caught up and muddled together and sorry, but I still lay it all at the feet of the few "DESTIEL MUST BE CANON - DEEEEN LOOOOOVES HIS CAAAAAS" loud mouths

I completely agree. I don't know how old you are (I'm 38) or how long you've been in fandom, but never have I seen a time in which fans and fandom have such an influence on what is happening on television shows. To a certain extent it's good, because it gives showrunners and writers instant feedback on whether or not the direction they've chosen for a character meets with fan approval. It's okay when fans give feedback on what, *in their opinions* should be happening. But it seems Tumblr and its younger denizens have gotten a stranglehold on many showrunners' ideas. I absolutely HATE the stupid shipping polls, the meta on why Dean/Cas is canon (it's not; I choose to ship them wearing my slash goggles, just as much as Wincesters choose to ship Dean/Sam), or *anyone* telling me who or who not I should ne shipping and writing about in my fan fiction.

I think it's because of this new way fans can interact with writers and showrunners that they think being more vocal and loud and annoying might be able to change something.

Part of it I admit, is also because I don't want romantic relationships on my show

To be honest, neither do I. Besides, the writers would completely screw it up anyway. As much as I ship Dean/Cas, there's a part of me that doesn't really want them to take it to the next level. Perhaps a good comparison would be Mulder and Scully, if you ever watched The X-Files. I loved them together, and I know they loved and cared for each other, but I didn't want to *see* it. I love my UST. I would rather the writers make a definitive decision on just what Dean and Cas are to each other. Brothers in arms? Fine. Like brothers? Fine. The buddy in the next foxhole? Fine. A supernatural creature with whom Dean shares an intense bond? Fine. A Possible lover? Fine. JUST MAKE UP YOUR MIND, WRITERS. I simply want them to be consistent with characterization.

I find other relationships far too interesting to explore, why I found Sam/Amelia so very tedious

I found Sam/Amelia tedious because that actress had absolutely no chemistry with Jared. I would have loved to have seen him with Sarah, or even the woman from "Sex and Violence" who Dean thought was the siren. They had chemistry.

Long story short, I don't think there is any easy answer about why the writers continue to use loaded language in the scripts if they have no intention on going through with anything.