A query about 9.02 and other bits

[ash48]

Watched the ep again. :))

There was a LOT of sexual innuendo in the latest episode. From Crowley's " Can't wait to see Sam in stilettos and a leather bustier- really putting the S.A.M into S and M." to Sergeant Bates saying "I will spank your ass raw" (and D/s stuff that Abaddon said...).

I'm curious about this section:

Abaddon: So go ahead and play hard to get, and I'll peel off this "no demons allowed" tattoo and blow smoke up your ass.

Dean: ...I gotta tell ya, between you and me it's a horror show up there.

Abaddon: It can get worse. Because once I'm on top I'll make you watch - and I'll use your body.

I really wondered where they were going with this and then Abaddon seemed to change direction and started talking about killing babies.

Um...what exactly was Dean talking about? My first thought (and continuing thoughts) didn't go to a very nice place at all. A bit like the way Lucifer referred to possible experiences Sam had in the cage ("bunk buddy, "you are my bitch in every way"), was Dean referring perhaps to his time in Hell? Being, quite literally, fucked up? Or was it simply referring to how dark his soul and inner being is? I'm just curious about the choice of words. It's seriously dark if it's the former - which, when offering a demon and angel universe makes sense. (The reason for asking is because I was going to list all the sexual references in the ep and wondered if that should be included).




Speculation ahead....

I am also thinking that as we missed out on the (apparently) planned showdown between Michael!Dean and Lucifer!Sam - maybe we are heading for a showdown between Ezekiel!Sam and Abaddon!Dean? Now THAT could be very cool. Oh man...just thinking about how Jensen would play Abaddon...*thud* (I wonder if they'd even dare do that...).

And the more I ponder it, the more I really hope Zeke is "good" (using the term loosely as the interpretation of what is good is murky - especially we haven't really seen a "good" angel as such). We've already had "evil" not!Sam so "good" not!Sam would be a potentially fascinating contrast. The lines would be blurred and that would be interesting I think. And I honestly don't know how Sam would cope with another being using his body to do evil crap to other people. Doing "good" for other people would provide an interesting comparison - and maybe reverse the (potential) situation of Sam wanting to get rid of him. If Sam wanted to keep Zeke on board (and Zeke was happy to stay) how would Dean deal with that. What would the fall out be...

Zeke being able to tap into Sam's memories and thoughts is full on creepy - which would add to that exploration of the difference (or lack of) between being possessed by an angel or a demon. *guh* so many possibilities with this storyline. I love it.


Also:



Cool. I wondered why the first poster had Sam looking down. Now it's clear - this time it's Zeke. Hee...a poster for both the characters.

Comments

[galwithglasses.livejournal.com]

There's more that's different with the poster besides Sam. The tagline in the original said Prepare for the Fall. This one talks about Hell reigning.

You know, Cas carved the enochian symbols on their ribs so angels couldn't track them. He should have carved the anti-possession tattoo mark on there too. Skin is so fragile.

The bit about being a horror show up there almost felt like there was dialog missing or something. It sort of came out of nowhere. After watching On the Head of a Pin and all the other scenes of demon torture we've had and the fact that there was so much riding on Dean breaking, I don't think there's much that wasn't done to him....and probably not a lot he didn't do after getting off the rack. Alastair basically said he had a lot of promise.

I don't trust Zeke, first because he's an angel and he's too into lying but like you said, what an angel might consider good and where that would mesh with Sam's goals, it's hard to say. It depends on whether Sam is still looking for redemption and what Zeke offers along those lines. Although we thought Sam's chat with Death about not being used to hurt anyone else partly meant Dean, I think Sam was also referring to his being the pawn of Heaven and Hell and everyone that they've lost since then plus all the associated fallout on earth. Tracy's comments about her parents were put there to reinforce that, I think.

[linvro21.livejournal.com]

Did you notice that the flower Crowley was holding in the first poster, has caught fire?

[galwithglasses.livejournal.com]

I thought there was more red back there but I didn't realize the flame was new. Good catch.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

I made this (http://ash48.tumblr.com/post/64369559136/supernatural-promotional-posters-pre-season-and) so you can really see the differences. ;)

[galwithglasses.livejournal.com]

Thank you! That's amazing. There's a lot more changes than I thought. Awesome job to animate it like that. \o/

[ash48.livejournal.com]

He should have carved the anti-possession tattoo mark on there too.

Now that would have been clever thinking (of course, we wouldn't be able to have this story line so I'm glad he didn't).

I felt like there was dialogue missing from Abby's speech also (I think I might call her Abby - even though it doesn't really suit her. Just easier to type). I got the distinct feeling she was heading in one direction then it suddenly changed. Probably couldn't actually say the things implied. It creeped me out though.

I'm not sure I trust Zeke either. I think all those things you mentioned are the potential areas that they can go. If Sam had the choice about being possessed by an angel and it turned out he could actually help people (assuming he could control Zeke) then maybe he'd feel like he was doing some good. But I'd be really surprised if Sam would choose that. He's been an Hell and Heaven pawn for too long (I think that's a good reading on what he said to Death).