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I want to share this great review of 9.13 at SpoilerTV: The Problems with Saving Each Other

It's an even handed and well observed look at the final scene (was there actually anything else in that ep? I seem to remember a tank top and a hair net…) and might actually make you believe Carver has a plan (ok, so it might not convince you, but I think there are some valid points). It also confirms my belief that he started this direction (but stumbled) in S8.

I'm still trying to get over the fans' reactions toward Sam. This review helped me understand it a bit better, but to be honest I am still left shaking my head. To not have a shred of sympathy for a character who has been through and suffered so much leaves me speechless. But. I don't want to rehash that. I know everyone has different views on the brothers - but I gotta say I never realised there was such a divide for some. I have no idea how anyone can actually watch the show with such a deep level of hatred for one of the main characters.

I thought this post by [livejournal.com profile] bittersweettwit on why Sam's behaviour isn't OOC is interesting too. I've seen some comments (not on my journal) that suggest that Sam must still be possessed, or have Lucifer still inside him to say something like that. O_o This is a good argument for why he is actually in character.

And [livejournal.com profile] fangasm has written an interesting and well constructed review that also looks at why fans have reacted so passionately about it - namely that we don't like change. I agree with much of it, but some I'm still pondering. I get that one of the reasons we love the show is because of the brothers unhealthy, messy, codependent relationship and we don't like the idea of that changing, but I for one would like to see them working toward a less destructive relationship full of positive love rather than the cycle of sacrifice and resurrections. The fact that they are addressing this now, could mean we are heading toward change. Personally, I think we can have a show about brothers who have a healthy(-er) relationship and it still be engaging and capture our hearts like it's done for years (or, you know…not ;D)

And if you're still feeling down or worried (or pissed) you've just gotta see the promo for 9.14. I'm pretty easy to please so just seeing the boys on the screen together makes me pretty damn happy (even when they are working through a rift). Shame we have to wait until the 25th to see it!

Date: 2014-02-12 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Pleasure hun. So are you saying he retweeted it? And I'm sad to hear he's been bashed :(( what a horrible representation of fandom. And also, those writers would have had little input into that final scene. That would have been on the table since the beginning of S9. I feel it's always been heading toward that confrontation - they are just the unfortunate ones who had to write it.

Date: 2014-02-12 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bittersweettwit.livejournal.com
The users on twitter are generally (but obviously not in all cases) by far the worst representation of fandom there is which is why I took so long to actually join. I don't know whether it's the 140 character limit making people come across as more hateful than they mean to or it's a case of the power to communicate directly with the writers going to peoples head *sigh*.

And I'm quite new to Twitter myself and do not quite understand the terminology I only know because I got a notification haha. As far as I can understand though 'favouriting' a tweet is the twitter equivilant of facebooks 'like' function. Although I do believe there is a page which stores his favourite tweets for him to easily look at later!

As I said I imagine he saw the positive title and reacted rather than actually read it properly haha
Edited Date: 2014-02-12 10:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-13 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Oh cool, if he favourited it then he definitely saw it. :DD

And yeah - I think it's the immediacy of twitter and the fact that you can contact the writers directly. It seems like a way of getting any frustration or passionate outburst out quickly. A number of times I've help back a tweet realising it's just me venting (though recently I let a few slip…)

My hope is that mostly they ignore it. Or see it as a win because people are talking about it (though I'm sure the hurtful comments wouldn't come across as any sort of win). I did in fact tweet robbie for a Sam POV ep because the bashing was getting me down. I'd be pretty damn sure it would be ignored - hee, no writer is suddenly going to go "oh, that's a good idea. I'll write that right now!". :) So I know the feeling of tweeting as a reflect.

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