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and so I wondered if my knowledgeable flist could shed any light...


1. Was the demon in Croatoan (Duane Tanner) Meg? I admit to never thinking it was but I've come to realise that others think it is....?

2. When Ruby told Sam "You didn't need the feather to fly, you had it in you the whole time Dumbo", she's referring to Sam not needing the blood to be able to exorcise Demons yeah? So if that's the case why does Sam run out of "juice" when exorcising Demons? As in he wasn't able to exorcise Ruby after getting rid on Lilith. Is it because he is mentally exhausted? Spent his mental energies? Did he only think he needed blood in order to use his special skills. If so, does than mean he could actually exorcise demons now (and in S5) and doesn't because it would betray Dean's trust and just be too "darkside"? I'm thinking yes. But would he be able to without the connection to blood.... Hmmmm...

and finally (and this is because I am getting all wooby because I am in the middle of making a Sam vid and it's breaking me heart just a little...).

Why is Dean so hard on Sam with the choices he made after his death? I suppose that's rhetorical, because I know Dean has issues he's dealing with as well (and Sam choosing Ruby over himself cut to the core), but Dean copped out after Sam's death. He didn't want to live with the pain of grief. He couldn't live without Sam, so he bought him back.

Yet Sam had to suffer the terrible grief of losing Dean. He didn't have an out like Dean did. Now, sure Sam made some bad choices, but holy crap. I think Dean making a deal with a demon was a pretty bad choice as well. So yeah, cut your little bro some slack Dean. He was hurting mighty bad and the choices at the time helped him survive. Don't forget, you chose not to live with those feelings.....

(And that last one isn't really a question, just a rant. I know the way each of them have handled each others death is the whole point (well mostly) of S3 to S5. And I love it really! Just thinky thoughts...)

Date: 2010-01-03 08:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stormcloude
I think there was a turning point at Head of a Pin

For me they were too familiar with the "ritual" of him drinking her blood for it to be new at that point. I think the turning point was in Criss Angel when she came and tempted him, then he willingly went with her in the end. That's when I think he started embracing his powers and drinking her blood for good.

Date: 2010-01-03 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] el1ie.livejournal.com
Hmmm, yes, I do see your point there, but for me the Criss Angel episode was where Sam decided to make a plan with Ruby and take action without Dean, but to me he was still determined at that point to do things his way, I think he knew about taking the blood and I think she'd offered her arm and enticed him to partake to strengthen his powers quickly before, but he hadn't.

In Head of the Pin, it was the danger Dean was in that caused him to throw caution to the wind - say "this is it, I don't care if it turns me evil" it was an all or nothing suicide bid to get Dean back and this is where his powers went into overload and he burnt Alastair to a crisp, surprising even Castiel. He thought the huge power boost was just from the blood when actually it was his anger and hatred that did it.

Heck, I'm probably miles off, but that's just the way it seems to fit best for me. Kripke is bound to blow it all out of the water soon anyway! *G*

Date: 2010-01-03 09:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stormcloude
I can see your viewpoint too. Kripke really botched things leaving so much of Sam's story in the shadows in season 4. I doubt we'll ever know how it really was supposed to be interpreted.

Date: 2010-01-03 09:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] el1ie.livejournal.com
Yep, I totally agree with this, he's really left so much of Sam's motivational story that far in the dark it's lost all sympathy for many fans and that's a damned shame.

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