So, I'm working (well, struggling actually) with this vid and a question came up about the boys' destinies.
Was Sam's destiny always to sacrifice himself to save the world and Dean's was to break the cycle of sacrifice? Which is basically what happened to them in the end.
Or was it to become Michael and Lucifer's vessels all along (as had been mentioned in a few episodes) and they instead exerted some "free will" and therefore didn't fulfil their rightful destinies.
I'm thinking the latter now (man, I'm doing my head in with the amount of turn arounds I've had about this episode). I initially liked the idea that Sam was always destined to save the world (with Dean's help) and Dean was always meant to be the strongest of the Winchesters and break the cycle. But maybe they brought that about themselves. Dean by saying no to Michael and Sam being strong enough to bring Lucifer down.
So free will did win out in the end. Sort of. Because who can say with one brother being dead while the other suffers his loss a win. At all. :(
Or maybe they had 2 potential destinies. Or none. Or...
Ok. My head hurts now. Maybe I'll see if I can make sense of this vid. Though I've realised that even if it doesn't see the light of day (which, let's face it, there's been a plethora of 5.22 vids lately *g*,), I'll have worked something out of my system. :)
Also, special hugs and thanks to my bidders. *smish*
Was Sam's destiny always to sacrifice himself to save the world and Dean's was to break the cycle of sacrifice? Which is basically what happened to them in the end.
Or was it to become Michael and Lucifer's vessels all along (as had been mentioned in a few episodes) and they instead exerted some "free will" and therefore didn't fulfil their rightful destinies.
I'm thinking the latter now (man, I'm doing my head in with the amount of turn arounds I've had about this episode). I initially liked the idea that Sam was always destined to save the world (with Dean's help) and Dean was always meant to be the strongest of the Winchesters and break the cycle. But maybe they brought that about themselves. Dean by saying no to Michael and Sam being strong enough to bring Lucifer down.
So free will did win out in the end. Sort of. Because who can say with one brother being dead while the other suffers his loss a win. At all. :(
Or maybe they had 2 potential destinies. Or none. Or...
Ok. My head hurts now. Maybe I'll see if I can make sense of this vid. Though I've realised that even if it doesn't see the light of day (which, let's face it, there's been a plethora of 5.22 vids lately *g*,), I'll have worked something out of my system. :)
Also, special hugs and thanks to my bidders. *smish*
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Date: 2010-05-23 02:24 pm (UTC)But I also like the question Cas poses to Dean "What do you want - peace or freedom?
Oh man. This is such a tough one. And really so very cruel as an outcome for the boys (and I love your comparison to The Matrix. I remember thinking "I think I'd rather live in the "fake" world and eat real steak rather than that stuff they were eating in the "real" world. Indeed, what price freedom?!).
So yes. No matter which way it's looked at - whether they fulfilled or didn't fulfil any sort of "destiny", they certainly didn't win anything. Ok. Maybe some sort of "freedom", but as you point out. Ay what cost.
Any news on whether we can plug into a projector to screen stuff? I can organise some vids on my shiny new computer if so. Quality will probably be better if we can do that.