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ash48I know what I am about to do is bad form but damnit, I need to growl and grumble and just... arghhh...
So, I decided to do some "research" for my next vid (part 2 for my winning bidder). I needed to remind myself where I might find some good old fashioned Dean hitting on girls scenes (remember when he used to do that?) and basically Dean being damn sexy, so I thought I do some YT Supernatural vid surfing.
I figured vids using Brittany's "Womanizer" might be good. Lends itself to what I might be looking for. But MY GOD! The crap I came across. (yes, yes, I know it's not good form to diss other people works.... but arghhhh). I just don't get it. Clips that have NOTHING to do with the song or relate to any "theme" of the vid (yes, Dean might look sexy when he's looking at his dead father...but... arghhh, not appropriate!!) gazzillion talking head, long, loooong scenes, credits and just...just... /o\. But here's the thing... one had about 84,000 views. What the...?!??!?
I suppose it's because I usually only watch vids posted here or YT recs. Which means I am totally spoiled by amazing and wonderfully constructed works. And have been for a long time. I just didn't realise it could be so baaaad.
Ok. End rant. I don't mean to be mean. I just had to get that off my chest. *phew*
That said. Can anyone rec me a good Dean and his "moves" vids. I reckon there must be one out there. Or even a montage of sexy Dean scenes...(I know they'd be some of those!!)... but...only ones I can actually sit through. ;) It's totally for research purposes you understand....:D
Better now...
ETA: For what it's worth I don't believe Dean is a womanizer at all. I think he's a healthy male who appreciates the female form and enjoys sex, but I also think he has a respect for women that is quite deep and not often realised on the show. There's meta here that will have already been written somewhere no doubt, much better than I could write it. But yeah... just thought I'd mention that. :)
So, I decided to do some "research" for my next vid (part 2 for my winning bidder). I needed to remind myself where I might find some good old fashioned Dean hitting on girls scenes (remember when he used to do that?) and basically Dean being damn sexy, so I thought I do some YT Supernatural vid surfing.
I figured vids using Brittany's "Womanizer" might be good. Lends itself to what I might be looking for. But MY GOD! The crap I came across. (yes, yes, I know it's not good form to diss other people works.... but arghhhh). I just don't get it. Clips that have NOTHING to do with the song or relate to any "theme" of the vid (yes, Dean might look sexy when he's looking at his dead father...but... arghhh, not appropriate!!) gazzillion talking head, long, loooong scenes, credits and just...just... /o\. But here's the thing... one had about 84,000 views. What the...?!??!?
I suppose it's because I usually only watch vids posted here or YT recs. Which means I am totally spoiled by amazing and wonderfully constructed works. And have been for a long time. I just didn't realise it could be so baaaad.
Ok. End rant. I don't mean to be mean. I just had to get that off my chest. *phew*
That said. Can anyone rec me a good Dean and his "moves" vids. I reckon there must be one out there. Or even a montage of sexy Dean scenes...(I know they'd be some of those!!)... but...only ones I can actually sit through. ;) It's totally for research purposes you understand....:D
Better now...
ETA: For what it's worth I don't believe Dean is a womanizer at all. I think he's a healthy male who appreciates the female form and enjoys sex, but I also think he has a respect for women that is quite deep and not often realised on the show. There's meta here that will have already been written somewhere no doubt, much better than I could write it. But yeah... just thought I'd mention that. :)
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Date: 2010-10-21 11:04 am (UTC)I can't think of a flirting Dean vid off the top of my head (because I usually don't watch those), but this general Dean montage from nicolchen84 does come to mind. There's 247 Dean scenes in it. I'm sure there's something that's bound to inspire you ;)
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Date: 2010-10-21 11:38 am (UTC)I can't think of a flirting Dean vid off the top of my head (because I usually don't watch those)
Yeah - me neither. But this vid is going to call for it..*eek* Thanks for the link. That'll help. :D
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Date: 2010-10-21 11:15 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-10-21 12:07 pm (UTC)Yeah, I know exactly how you feel...
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Date: 2010-10-21 02:12 pm (UTC)And yes! Exactly like that! :D (And the vid discussion has a posting date. So we'll have a chance to rant some more!)
So frustrating...
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Date: 2010-10-21 12:07 pm (UTC)Anyways there are a lot of vids out there I'm sure, but I don't know any of them. However, I can help you by making a list of scenes that Dean has been flirty/sexy :)
1. Dead In The Water - kids are awesome! line.
2. Wendigo - the ending when the girl kisses him always has me giggling at Dean's cute/sexyness.
3. Pilot - when he's flurting with Jessica (bad Dean trying to steal Sam's girl) ;P
4. Shadow - when he attempts to flirt with Meg but it backfires
5. Provenance - when he attempts to flirt with Sarah but gets brushed off
6. Fallen Idol - the wink he gives Paris Hilton while tied to the tree. So, classic Dean it's cheesy!
7. IKWYDLS & HH - When he first meets Anna in the Church. And of course every Dean/Anna scene out there ;)
8. Tall Tales - Sam's version of Dean when he's flirting with girls and Dean's version of himself when he's flirting with girls
9. BDABR - When Dean goes to Lisa in hopes of rehashing their bendy days ;)
10. Scarecrow - He doesn't really flirt but I just love how the girl just hangs on to him in the end when she witnesses her family being torn apart. I mean he's just that charming, he doesn't need to flirt to get the ladies to hug him ;)
11. ITGPSW - When Dean flirts with jailbait
12. Heart - when he attempts to flirt with Madison but doesn't work. The scene with him in the strip joint is also a classic Dean being Dean.
13. In The Beginning - his very blasphemous manner when looking in on his mom LOL! Yeh, classic Dean doesn't matter if it is his mom, she's pretty and he's attracted ;P
14. I can't remember the name of the episode, but it's one where he has a pen in his mouth and the waitress flirts with him and then Sam comes and interrupts. vague I know, but it's from season 1 and we see a lot of gifs and clips in vids with that scene.
15. BDABR - Dean and Bella scenes, especially the one in her apartment! So flirty, so hot, so dangerous ;)
16. RSAM - The scenes at the very fancy museum party with Bella and the end when she gives them the money.
17. ASS - Teenage Dean flirting with his teacher + his very high school moves in the janitor's closet.
18. TMS - Dean with the double mint twins.
19. S&V - Dean attempting to impress the doctor but gets cock blocked by Sammy.
20. TSRTS - The beginning with him and the angel/devil strippers.
Gosh! There are so many, but these are the ones that were at the top of my head. Hope it helps a little bit, sorry I couldn't rec you any vids =)
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Date: 2010-10-21 01:01 pm (UTC)Thank you, thank you. This is a HUGE help. This is exactly what I'm needing!
*smish* I have my bible for this vid.. \o/
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Date: 2010-10-21 02:25 pm (UTC)Indeed! /o\
I reckon you might just open a can o' worms on this subject:p For the record, I'm with you!
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Date: 2010-10-21 02:36 pm (UTC)But. I'll leave the full on rant for a discussion post that I'm planning in the near future. :D
Hee! And yes to the icon! :)
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Date: 2010-10-21 03:13 pm (UTC)Here: Install that if you ever go there again... Hit the button and I'll come running and cover your eyes...:D :D
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Date: 2010-10-21 03:29 pm (UTC)You know... I was going to ping you to see if you had any suggestions, but I thought I might brave the depths myself. Wish I hadn't. Left me damned depressed and just so.... arghhhh.... Honestly. Friggin' non sensical rubbish...
I mean, there are some vids that mean well. LIke the idea is there but they just need to work it a bit (like that No Bravery vid you linked me) and then there's... well.... ok. I won't go on. You know what I mean.... :)
Thanks hun!! I'll keep my little panic button on standby for any future adventures. Of which there will be NONE! I'm not venturing in there again.
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Date: 2010-10-21 04:34 pm (UTC)Eesh, how long had it been up? I suppose a lot just has to do with where links have been posted. Plus how recognizable the song is, a lot of people seem to think that song + show clips (any) = vid. Hmm, maybe I could be a vidder after all ...
There were a few decent vids at the Creation Con, but all I kept thinking was that these people winning prizes weren't generally anywhere as good as the vids I come across here. In fact the best vid I saw (and I'll confess, I didn't stick around to watch the vid shows because they just weren't that engaging) was one I'd already seen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dc1dWYqC4k
I noticed however that every so often I'd hear screams coming from the ballroom, which made me think at first that one of the guests had appeared (a con is one of the few places you might reasonably expect someone was looking at the actual Jared) and it was just for a given clip from the show. So I think that a large part of the audience doesn't really think about anything besides "Oh, there's a shot of Jensen shirtless!" Depressing, but there you go. Short PWP fic often gets a lot more comments than an excellent gen fic too.
I'm glad you brought this issue up though because until you had I'd kind of forgotten about it when discussing the last con. Normally, being able to watch fan vids in a room full of fellow fans would be a great thing but (aside from the painfully uncomfortable seating) I couldn't be bothered to do it because I didn't feel like we were really sharing anything.
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Date: 2010-10-21 07:09 pm (UTC)I was lucky enough that the first fanvid I seen for SPN was by an established vidder. Then I found her lj and tracked her recs and then found SVS and I think I've only seen like 3 bad videos from this fandom
not including my own.So they don't have vids from the truly talented people in this fandom at the con?
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Date: 2010-10-22 07:40 am (UTC)Yeah - that can certainly be a factor in how many hits a vid might get. I think it had been up for a little while. But still...
The Not Dead Yet vid is heaps of fun. I'd seen that before I think.
It's a real shame to hear that the fanvids they chose at the con weren't very engaging. Considering how many there are around that are engaging.
It was very interesting to me that at the con I went to in Sydney this year, they used a fanvid to introduce each guest. Some were pretty good, but there was one that was poorly made (in my opinion) and it really annoyed me. But then it made me realise that to the average viewer the way a vid is put together might not be that important.
I won't rant about this now as in about a month I will be hosting a similar discussion at spnroundtable. I'm really hoping to get some interesting opinion on what makes a fanvid watchable. Hee! No doubt I'll do some ranting then.
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Date: 2010-10-21 04:51 pm (UTC)Never more true, huh? LOL Youtube proves that everyday.
This is because we understand *context*. Actually, IMO, good vidders understand context so well (most of the time) that it can become creatively crippling if they don't start working through it. Change the clip! Make it physically/locally hard to recognize, e.g., Dean being sexy while Daddy Winchester burns? Flip it, zoom it, saturate/desaturate it, blur it, make it b/w.
Oh wait. You didn't need to hear that. LOL I'm just running off at the keyboard because I don't want to work today. Can you tell?
Did you clip Dean dunking Lust in Magnificent Seven? Punching out Ruby in NRFtW? Dean sliding into the grave in CSPWDT? Stabbing Zachariah in the throat (which was so very hot and proved that Dean's eyes don't burn out)...
/shutting up now
ETA for punctuation and typos
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Date: 2010-10-21 07:10 pm (UTC)The yt crap quoata might be more like 99.9% :)
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Date: 2010-10-21 07:12 pm (UTC)Exactly! *nods* It's not the easiest thing to do, especially if your new to working with the program *raises hand*, but that's what it's there for. To play around with and learn how to work. The least you could do is try to make it look decent!
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Date: 2010-10-22 02:52 am (UTC)*sniff*
I certainly do have some good scenes now. Just hope I can put them all together....:)
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Date: 2010-10-21 06:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-10-22 02:55 am (UTC)Dean would be AWESOME on a date. Unless he was being chased by monsters and then maybe not so much. :)
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Date: 2010-10-21 07:12 pm (UTC)You Tube is the perfect place to go when you have a creative crisis! All those talky mouthes, endless clips, lack of concept make me suddenlly feel really good about my vidding efforts.
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Date: 2010-10-21 09:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-10-22 07:04 am (UTC)I count myself lucky if I get around the 500 mark
See, this is what really makes my blood boil. You are a wonderful, classy vidder and yet to only be averaging those hits makes no sense. Especially when crap is up in the tens of thousands (there's some awesome stuff up that high as well - but just not as much).
YT doesn't make a lot of sense and I probably really didn't realise that until I started digging around.
(I'm going to be hosting a vid discussion on this late next month at spnroundtable. Keep your eye out because I'd love to hear more from you on this. *g*)
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Date: 2010-10-22 12:12 am (UTC)might be awhile before I get back to you.
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Date: 2010-10-22 12:27 am (UTC)Thanks hun.
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Date: 2010-10-22 12:28 am (UTC)And, word to your ETA. *nods*
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Date: 2010-10-22 07:06 am (UTC)Hee! I wished I'd remembered too!
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