Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts here and in the discussion. I think it's great to get a good perspective from a D/C shipper. :)
I have to say that before I looked into this subject I just couldn't fathom how anyone could even suggest the destiel would ever become canon. Aside from TPTB not having the balls to go there I just couldn't see any concrete evidence that it's even on the table. I mean, I could see all the innuendo but brushed it off as show playing around with the audience. But since reading some of the arguments and looking at it the way the shippers might I can actually see that the possibility isn't unfathomable.
I do feel that if they don't intend to go canon, then they need to stop with the subtext.
For me, this is one of the big issues surrounding this. They are either being careless and having "fun" at the expense of its fans, or they are setting up a storyline that they will explore fully one day. There is no doubt that the subtext is there. I just wish I knew what they were trying to do with it. I've said in another comment that it must be as frustrating for the D/C shippers as it is for the non shippers. I'm a non shipper and it only serves to annoy me because I feel it clouds what they are trying to do with the relationship. We keep being told about this bond and friendship but they seem to have them at odds so much that it's hard to see it. But then they give us all the looks to each other and lines like "the last time someone looked at me like that I just got laid", that it makes the viewer (well, me) confused with their messages.
Now if they were actually heading somewhere it that I could understand all that (including what happened in the last episode) and say...oh that's because they are building up to a romantic relationship between them.
A comment above made it clear for me in describing that they are like Mulder and Scully in their UST. If anything, that's what I could buy.
I suppose it's immaterial as to whether I want to see it on the show because I have no control over it. More than anything I'd like THEM to make a decision about it. Come out and say..."No. It's not where we are heading. Dean and Cas do have a strong bond because Cas saved Dean from hell, but there's nothing at all sexual there. It's a friendship only"... OR..."yes, as part of an on going arc with are teasing out the idea that Dean and Cas could be a romantic couple by the end of the series". Hee....see! simple!!
You mention below about them having the chance to actually talk. It's probably no difference to Sam and Dean actually talking. It seems to be part of the story telling that by not communicating it creates tension. I personally get very frustrated by it. During the suicide discussion I felt that finally we were seeing part of their deeper friendship. They came close to actually talking about something meaningful.
I feel at this stage (especially reading all the differing point of views) that it's very unlikely they will go there. On top of that I've found it particularly interesting that many don't and not because they don;t like Dean/Cas, but because they don't trust the writers to do a good job of it. That's been my biggest eye opener.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts we me and others. <33
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Date: 2013-05-12 11:45 am (UTC)Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts here and in the discussion. I think it's great to get a good perspective from a D/C shipper. :)
I have to say that before I looked into this subject I just couldn't fathom how anyone could even suggest the destiel would ever become canon. Aside from TPTB not having the balls to go there I just couldn't see any concrete evidence that it's even on the table. I mean, I could see all the innuendo but brushed it off as show playing around with the audience. But since reading some of the arguments and looking at it the way the shippers might I can actually see that the possibility isn't unfathomable.
I do feel that if they don't intend to go canon, then they need to stop with the subtext.
For me, this is one of the big issues surrounding this. They are either being careless and having "fun" at the expense of its fans, or they are setting up a storyline that they will explore fully one day. There is no doubt that the subtext is there. I just wish I knew what they were trying to do with it. I've said in another comment that it must be as frustrating for the D/C shippers as it is for the non shippers. I'm a non shipper and it only serves to annoy me because I feel it clouds what they are trying to do with the relationship. We keep being told about this bond and friendship but they seem to have them at odds so much that it's hard to see it. But then they give us all the looks to each other and lines like "the last time someone looked at me like that I just got laid", that it makes the viewer (well, me) confused with their messages.
Now if they were actually heading somewhere it that I could understand all that (including what happened in the last episode) and say...oh that's because they are building up to a romantic relationship between them.
A comment above made it clear for me in describing that they are like Mulder and Scully in their UST. If anything, that's what I could buy.
I suppose it's immaterial as to whether I want to see it on the show because I have no control over it. More than anything I'd like THEM to make a decision about it. Come out and say..."No. It's not where we are heading. Dean and Cas do have a strong bond because Cas saved Dean from hell, but there's nothing at all sexual there. It's a friendship only"... OR..."yes, as part of an on going arc with are teasing out the idea that Dean and Cas could be a romantic couple by the end of the series". Hee....see! simple!!
You mention below about them having the chance to actually talk. It's probably no difference to Sam and Dean actually talking. It seems to be part of the story telling that by not communicating it creates tension. I personally get very frustrated by it. During the suicide discussion I felt that finally we were seeing part of their deeper friendship. They came close to actually talking about something meaningful.
I feel at this stage (especially reading all the differing point of views) that it's very unlikely they will go there. On top of that I've found it particularly interesting that many don't and not because they don;t like Dean/Cas, but because they don't trust the writers to do a good job of it. That's been my biggest eye opener.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts we me and others. <33