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Dedicated to [livejournal.com profile] _sharvie_

Title: Violence & Sex
Vidder: Ash
Song: When Doves Cry by Prince
WARNINGS: WINCEST, mm slash, violence, NSFW
Rating: R
Category: Wincest, AU, angst
Length: 2 mins
Size 16.5 mb
Summary: Dean desires Sam but sublimates this need with violence.

As this is AU here's more of what's happening: I've tried to show what's going on in Dean's mind while he is hitting Sam. There's a suggestion that he's jealous over Sam's need for women. He confronts Sam and Sam responds....


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I had trouble uploading this onto streaming sites. The song is very protected it would seem. Password is: ash48

My thanks
There are not enough words to thank [livejournal.com profile] _sharvie_ for her dedication to this vid. Not only her detailed beta notes but her constant encouragement throughout this project. She also provided the "other" ;) footage and my wonderful banner. And during all this she helped me with this post about vidding. It's been a full on month! Thank you so much hun. *smish*

Cheerleading and brainstorming were key to me finishing this vid and the lovely [livejournal.com profile] deirdre_c and the wonderful [livejournal.com profile] maichan808 helped me with their feedback, ideas and support. Thank you SO much ladies. I am actually thrilled that I finished this and you guys help make that happen. *hugs*

Vid notes
No. I won't bore you with how hard this vid was for me. Well .... maybe a little bit. There are a lot of firsts for me here. Not only the subject matter but the use of out-sourced footage, effects I've never used before and the fact that I never thought I'd make an AU vid in my (vidding) life. It's damn hard and I have immense admiration for vidders who achieve it.

I primarily wanted to explore the links between violence and sex, the power play between the brothers and how they communicate their desires.

I know there are flaws here. And I could probably work on it for another month to iron them all out, but enough is enough. I'm happy with this. It's ended up being more than I imagined when I started out.

Feedback will be cherished. *bites nails*
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Date: 2009-04-01 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
Eeeee! I haven't watched it yet, but I am so excited for this! I've been looking forward to this ever since you first mentioned it.

*hugs!*

Date: 2009-04-01 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
*eep* *chews arm* I'm soooo nervous about this one. Hopes it's ok hun.

xx

Date: 2009-04-01 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
I liked it! I liked the way you showed how Dean was feeling while he was beating the shit out of Sam. :P

But I especially loved when it got towards the end and the way you edited the clips to make those smouldering looks really appear to mean something MORE -- like when Sam threw Dean up against the wall.

*hugs* I will have to watch it again!

Oh! And I loved the part where you showed both Sam and Dean with women -- and the implication that they were drowning their feelings for each other (and jealous of each other, especially Dean).

Date: 2009-04-01 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Thanks hun.

It all probably works better in my head as a fic then a vid! :D

And I loved the part where you showed both Sam and Dean with women

Eek! Dean with women?! *fails* .... actually yeah, my manipping obviously didn't translate.... biggest problem with AU's - taking clips out of context. But equally if that worked in that context then, cool!!

Thank you so much for watching and for the feedback.

xx

Date: 2009-04-01 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lsketch42.livejournal.com
Went to go watch it hun but Imeem is saying that the vid is unavailable...

Date: 2009-04-01 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
Aw! You didn't fail, honest! It's much more likely that I just misinterpreted because I'm slow on the uptake.

But if I watched it again (and I just put it on my MP3 player) I would probably 'get' more of what was happening. I'm absolutely sincere when I say that often I do not read between the lines well in fanvideos and it seems like everyone else got what the vidder meant, and I didn't.

But it was awesome and I think you should be proud of yourself. You stuck with it and you created something awesome -- just like, in my opinion, you always do!

Date: 2009-04-01 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Damn! That's three streaming sites that's rejected this on copyright.

Hmmmm..... not sure how to solve that one....

Thanks for letting me know. It was up for longer than the other 2 so I thought it might have been ok - seems not. :(

xx

Date: 2009-04-01 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
*hugs* thanks hun. Means a lot to me. :D

xx

Date: 2009-04-01 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
I just checked it and it's still there?? Maybe it's only playing for me.....?

Damn vid! Giving me trouble even after I've finished it!
:)

xx

Date: 2009-04-02 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
You're welcome <3

Date: 2009-04-02 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azziria.livejournal.com
Wow, powerful stuff! For me, you achieved what you set out to do. The choice of clips, how you've put them together, and the whole 'look' of the vid really work.

(Plus, you've nailed a couple of my kinks so hard that this could be tailor-made for my viewing...!)

Loved it, m'dear. Another iPod keeper for me :-)

Date: 2009-04-02 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Phew! Thank you so much. I'm thrilled you felt this was tailor-made. I must have done something right. :D

*hugs* I really appreciate your comment.

xx

Date: 2009-04-02 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
Wow! That was amazing! I'm kind of floored--I so rarely view vids, but the premise sounded interesting. I'm so glad I clicked. The music and images meshed up perfectly, as did the other clips. (and great choice of music, btw.) The transitions were so smooth, and the color pulled everything together. Nice bit with the memories in black and white. Lovely, lovely work, thanks for sharing this!

Date: 2009-04-02 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_sharvie_/
I'm still in awe over this vid! The external footage alone makes me giddy just thinking about. Lots of times it never seems to blend just right with the vid but the effect you built here is killer!

Plus, you broke your AU cherry! Whoo! They are tough to pull off but when done right, like this is, they can produce some seriously powerful stuff. I just love how you always bring it back to the emotions. Yes, I do love me some porn clips, but imo, it's not over done here. It's perfectly balanced with the emotions that drive the vid. Bravo!

And the fact that this love/hate relationship is practically canon!? Only makes it that much better. :P

You seriously rocked it! *points to icon* See! ROCKED IT!

Oo, oo! And I'm still totally squeeing over the title blurb! *twirls you*

Date: 2009-04-02 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Thank you so much. I love that you gave it a go - especially if you don't often watch vids.

Thanks again for your lovely comment. I really appreciate it.
xx

Date: 2009-04-02 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
Oh darlin'. I still don't have enough words. *heffa hugs*

You've put up with a lot of angsting from me over this one, but you kept me going, kept me on track and I am so pleased I did actually stick with it.

Hee! Yes I did break my AU cherry - not sure it's somewhere I'll want to visit again for a while. But who knows? If the right song comes along..... (can't believe I'm saying that!)

Thanks so much for the vimeo link btw. I should check that site out. (4shared rejected it too).

Thanks again for everything.
xx

Date: 2009-04-02 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirasymphony.livejournal.com
This is just gorgeous. I'm not any good at constructive feedback, but I just had to let you know how I much I liked it.
Twas lovely, and hot, don't forget hot!

Date: 2009-04-02 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zombiecop.livejournal.com
Very powerful (and hot)! Fantastic editing and a great AU. You blended the out-sourced footage in so well with the boys that it was easy to stay focused on what's happening in the video, not where the video came from. I also liked the bit with Ruby being in black and white; it does insinuate Sam's infidelity is the catalyst for the violence. However which way, this video was totally ~relevant to my interests~ and I'm glad you shared! I wish all the angst from this season could be resolved like this, haha.

Date: 2009-04-02 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deirdre-c.livejournal.com
YAY! Loved it, loved it, loved it!!!! I can't even tell you how glad I am that you stuck with this. You did SUCH a great job wrangling it into place, you didn't give up, you MADE IT WORK. (and work it does. YOW!) You just rock so hard!! \o/

Brava, my dear! BRAVA!!!

Date: 2009-04-02 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neros-violin.livejournal.com
Wow! That was awesome! Gorgeous to look at, and the story was definitely all there - visual storytelling is really hard, but I think you pulled it off. Great work!

Date: 2009-04-02 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magser.livejournal.com
Wow thats awesome...really really fantastic!

Date: 2009-04-02 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lsketch42.livejournal.com
Hey, it's working now :) Weird. Maybe I clicked on the link while it was still processing or something...

Anyway, congrats on your first AU vid! They are exhausting aren't they? ;) definitely a different sort of vid for you but that's the best part as a vidder...getting to try something new (even though it can drive you crazy when you're actually making it :P)

I think you did a great job incorporating the other footage. I loved how you had it interwoven with the music, gave it kind of a rock music video feel. And you could definitely feel the tension between the boys.

Hope to see some other AU's from you :)

Oh, and have you tried Bam Vid Vault yet? It's copyright-problem free.

Date: 2009-04-02 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scoopgirl79.livejournal.com
That was so freaking awesome.. I loved it... XD... *drools over video* goes back to watch it again. :)

Date: 2009-04-02 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanann.livejournal.com
that is so HOT!
God! Yes! *suffers from hotness and is unable to speak*
thank you!
Edited Date: 2009-04-02 07:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-02 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretlytodream.livejournal.com
Okaaaay....Ash, you officialy amazed me oO
Never thought you'd make something like this but you made me go "wooohooooo" and watch this vid with open mouth. Like, seriosuly, duuuuudeeeee....That was very hot, and very interesting. I really liked the idea of connection between violence and sex, and I think you totally managed to show it. I really liked the beats, and how you used the clips from 106 (for example) and turned the sense upside down. That was hoooot ;) Use of outside footage was really well done, really liked it. Where did you get from those hot clips, huh? =)
Also I really loved some of the "new" effects you used - very nifty ;) Now I'm not even sure if you use Sony vegas 8... lol
Definitely downloading and reccing it at my LJ ;)
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