Serious fandom business (aka seeking the flist's advice..)

[ash48]

So, I've been blathering about this bromance vid my muse seems determined to kill me with. I'm still not sure this will actually happen, but I am pursuing it to see how far I can go before it all becomes too hard.

Step one is confirming the bromance pairings I have.

To qualify as "bromance" I am looking for pairings where 2 males care deeply for each other. Mateship, male bonding, BBF's, platonic love (I'd sell my soul for you Sammy) kind of friendship.

These are the pairings I have so far. Thank you to everyone who have contributed to this list.



Sam and Dean (Supernatural)
Dean and Castiel (Supernatural)
Peter and Neal (White Collar)
Sherlock and John (Sherlock)
Starsky and Hutch (S&H)
Simon and Simon (S&S)
Frank and Jo Hardy (The Hardy Boys)
Bodie and Doyle (The Professionals)
Solo and Kuryakin (The Man from UNCLE)
Apollo and Starbuck (Original Battlestar Galatica)
Merlin and Arthur (Merlin)
Kirk and Spock (Star Trek)
Turk and JD (Scrubs)
Alan Shore and Denny Crane (Boston Legal)
Shawn and Gus (Psych),
House and Wilson (House),
Barney and Marshall (How I Met Your Mother),
Leonard and Sheldon (Big Bang Theory),
Jack and Tony Almeda (24),
Joey and Chandler (Friends),
Frank Pembleton and Tim Baylis (Homicide: Life on the streets),
Blacke and Avon (Blakes 7),
Hannibal Heyes and Kid Curry (Alias Smith and Jones)
Chuck and Morgan (Chuck),
Vince and E (Entourage)
Charlie & Don Eppes (Numb3rs)
Fraser and Ray - Due South,
O'neill and Jackson (sg1),
Clark and Lex (Smallville S1 & 2)
Dexter and his brother (Dexter s1),
Bernard and Manny (Black Books)
Jim and Blair (The Sentinel)
Little Joe and Hoss (Bonanza)
Sam and Josh (West Wing)
Landry and Matt (Friday Night Lights)
Riggins and Jason (Friday Night Lights)
Flynn and Provenza (The Closer)
Jason and Andy (True Blood)
Don and Roger (Mad Men)
Jemaine and Bret (Flight of the Conchords)
Troy and Abed (Community)
Angel and Spike (Angel or Buffy - um, not sure which one)
Seth and Ryan (The OC)
Dan and Casey (Sports Night)
Cory and Shawn (Boy Meets World)
Hercules and Iolas, (Hercules).
Sam and Michael (Burn Notice).
BJ and Hawkeye (MASH)
Felix and Oscar (The Odd Couple)



I'm interested to know if anyone thinks that either a) there are pairings I am missing and b) if some of these don't really qualify (as in friends, but not "I'd be a lesser person without you" type of friend). I am hoping to shrink the list, so if you think any of these don't belong I'd be really interested to know.

I am also looking for the perfect song. I can actually do that part myself but if you have any ideas you know I am all ears.

Also, because of this, I have discovered a new (well, quite old now) TV show and it has become my new addiction. It's The Sentinel and I am like... JIM AND BLAIR!! \o/ *smishes*ancastar for the incredibly detailed info on this series. At the moment I just can't get enough.

Comments

[missyjack.livejournal.com]

Interesting list! And interesting to think what defines a bromance.

For me a bromance at its core is a positive relationship - even if its not always functional! So I wouldn't include relationships that are very antagonistic - for example while I think Spike and Angel have some sort of fucked up bond, I don't see it as a bromance. I def wouldn't include Dexter and his brother. Or Jason and Andy from True Blood, who are sort of just mates bound together by a shared lie.


Also in MASH? Trapper and Hawkeye trumps BJ and Hawkeye ;D

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Thank you. This is exactly the feedback I need. Not knowing some of the pairings I have no idea whether they qualify or not.

I gave my own definition of bromance so I have no idea if there's a "true" definition. For me it's more than just a good working relationship (like say the NCIS guys). It definitely has to be positive. The gal who suggested Spike and Angel did mention their antagonism but I'm not familiar with them so I didn't know how it worked.

And yes... Trapper and Hawkeye would trump BJ and Hawkeye. But I wonder if that was more to do with the actors? The latter certainly didn't have the chemistry of Trapper and Hawkeye. Though I believe they were the original pairing from the film.

Thanks so much honey.<33

[redteekal.livejournal.com]

I've always thought the song Sting wrote for Lethal Weapon 3 (with Eric Clapton) would make an excellent bromance vid song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUYI7kIR0S4 It's a slow one though so I don't know if you wanted an action packed vid or slow emotional one. I'll be musing on the song for an action packed vid.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Oh that is indeed a lovely song.

I'm probably thinking something a little more celebratory. The one I have in mind at the moment is the song from Monsters Inc - "If I didn't have you". Something up beat.

Though I'm not really sure yet. I don't think I'll go action packed as not all pairings are about action. Probably more feel good and positive. Though that still could be "emotional".

Thanks hun! :)

[deangirlxoxo.livejournal.com]

That's quite the list!! I hope this won't be the vid that breaks your brain! LOL -- This is tough, because Sam and Dean are so off the charts in this area that most other "bromances" simply pale by comparison.

Just some thinky thoughts:
-I love House and Wilson and dysfunctional waters run deep, there's no doubt about that, and they certainly behave like brothers who are not really brothers, but I'm not certain they really belong in the "I would die for him" category.

-Ditto Dexter and his brother
-Ditto Jason and Andy

-Don and Roger from Mad Men: as a fan of the show my thoughts are that both these men are a little too arrogant and ego-driven to share the selfless kind of love and intense male bonding that you seek

-I *love* Friday Night Lights, and Riggins and Jason are definitely BFF material, but Season 4 really develops Riggins' relationship with his actual brother Billy (and in my heart that relationship trumps all). It's complicated, dysfunctional, deep, and wonderful. And the best part - *self-sacrificing* - sound familiar? :D

I've rambled enough so I'll stop now! Can't wait to see what music you finally choose - if I happen to think of something awesomely apropos I will let you know :D

[deangirlxoxo.livejournal.com]

Okay, I thought about it some more ... I take it back, House and Wilson definitely belong here. What was I thinking? :D

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Hee! This may indeed break my vidding brain (though I do have a plan so I'm not having to source all the footage myself *g*)

And Sam and Dean are indeed off the chart! There's been no stronger bond (though Starsky and Hutch come pretty damn close for me).

From earlier comments I'd say Dexter and bro are definitely off the list as are Jason and Andy.

I'll take your word for the others because I don't know them. I am looking for readily identifiable strong male bonds.

Thank you!

And, as with all vids, the song will be the thing. If I can end up getting the footage getting the right song will be the next challenge.

xx

[ruby-jelly.livejournal.com]

Tony Curtis and Roger Moore, The Persuaders, BBC, back in the dark ages!!! ;)

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, of course! I actually never really watched The Persuaders but I certainly knew of them. :)

Thanks hun.
xx

[tearful-eye.livejournal.com]

so, i'm here via vidding ...
and while i don't have any awesome song recs or anything, i have a new favorite (b)romance pairing i can't not reccomend ;) it's g callen & sam hanna from ncis:la (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ncis_los_angeles) & they're just completely adorable <3

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Oh you know I've always wondered about these two. I haven't had a chance to catch NCIS:LA, but I always suspected these two were good buddies from the ads I've seen.

Thank so much.

[merkuria.livejournal.com]

Van/Deaq from Fastlane. The show has a strong OT3 vibe but the bromance is pretty epic too. Not to mention the show's made for vidding, absolute eye-candy.

Brad/Nate from Generation Kill. Understated but undeniable.

Also for your consideration: Boyd/Rayland from Justified.

[denyce.livejournal.com]

♥ U for mentioning Fastlane =)

[cosmic-llin.livejournal.com]

Got here from vidding, this sounds awesome... Don't forget O'Brien and Bashir from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine! Also Clyde and Luke in The Sarah Jane Adventures, if they're not too young.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Thanks so much. The Sarah Jane Adventures eh? Never heard of them. I'll check them out.

Thanks.

[debbiel66.livejournal.com]

Such the list! Can't wait for the vid. But now I'm dying to watch The Sentinel because if it's your and Ancastar's addiction, it's gotta be good. :)

[ash48.livejournal.com]

OOh honey. You must tap her brain about it. (She can send you the email she sent me). One I saw her vid rec I was off!! Lots of yummy h/c. <3

[lilly-the-kid.livejournal.com]

Here I am again saying Sheppard and McKay because they are one of favorite bromance couples but I'm seriously not trying to force them on you :) So if you left them off on purpose, never mind this...

...as for the antagonists thing, maybe it's possible to include those as well, like, grouped together in one part of the vid, where there is a music change or something :)

Hope this helps!

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Oh noes. I didn't mean to leave them off. I must have missed them when transferring my data. Thanks for pointing it out. :)

as for the antagonists thing, maybe it's possible to include those as well

Hee! I'm beginning to dread how many I need in the vid as it is. The antagonists might make another vid one day.

Thanks! :)

[rhoboat.livejournal.com]

Hee! You've discovered Jim and Blair! ♥

[ash48.livejournal.com]

OMG!! I have! I can't get enough of them at the moment. Just about to finish S1. Just got myself the other 3 seasons to devour.
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[killabeez.livejournal.com]

Jeremiah and Kurdy! ♥

ETA: Vorenus & Pullo (Rome), Vinnie & Frank (Wiseguy), Nick & Stephen (Primeval), Chris & Vin (Magnificent 7), Mickey & Danny (Hustle), Danny & Rusty (Ocean's 11), Horatio & Archie (Hornblower), Seth & Sol (Deadwood), Winters & Nixon (Band of Brothers)

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Jeremiah and Kurdy!

Ooh, can you tell me where they are from. I don't know those names.

And wow - look at all those others. I think Wiseguy is the only show I've watched out of them. Argh! I think this vid may run for half and hour.

Thanks so much!
xx

[cravenhawk.livejournal.com]

That is quite a list. I think you got them all. The only one I would add is Ronon and Sheppard or Sheppard and McKay from SGA.

As for songs, the only one I can think of is "Aristotle and Averroes."

[ash48.livejournal.com]

It is indeed quite a (scary) list! I meant to put Sheppard and McKay up there from my previous list. I missed them.

Oh and thanks for the song suggestion. I'll take a listen.

Thanks.
xx

[meltingconfetti.livejournal.com]

I know less than half the bromances on this list, so I'm very much looking forward to discovering all sorts of new pairings. What an awesome idea! :)

[ash48.livejournal.com]

I have to say I know less than half as well. It's a bit mind blowing.

I'd like to think I can pull this off. We'll see. *fingers crossed*

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[denyce.livejournal.com]

Fastlane was mentioned & I'll happily second it.

I know its a smaller than small fandom, so I understand if it stays off your list. Though if you're not familiar let me rec the awesomeness of talitha78's vid 3. She showcases the 3some, but its quite clear how Van/Deaq are ;)

[merkuria.livejournal.com]

I watched the show because of that vid :)

[joyful.livejournal.com]

Criminal Minds: Reid and Morgan
Numb3rs: Colby and David
Castle: Ryan and Esposito
Dawson's Creek: Pacey and Dawson
SG-1: Jack and Daniel



As for Spike and Angel, you get some pretty good bromancey moments in season 5 of Angel. Most the scenes that they're together in on season 2 of Buffy, Spike's in a wheelchair, and the dynamic is off. Mainly because Angel is Angelus and the snark between them is different.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Thank you. I was thinking about Colby and David from Numb3rs last night. I think they'd qualify. The others I don't know, but I can put them up there.

Thanks
xx

[mara-snh.livejournal.com]

Can I reach way far back into my own online fandom experience and pull Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin (The Man from UNCLE) forward for your consideration? There are more than a few very bromancy moments throughout the series to sigh over.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

They are already on the list. :D They were one of my first considerations. I love those 2!! Very bromancy. :)

[danegen.livejournal.com]

Gunn and Wes (Angel)
Hardison and Elliot (Leverage--with a chewy Parker center)
Tony and McGee (NCIS)
Duncan and Methos (Highlander)
Lim and Phil (Better Off Ted)

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Thank you! Hee! Chewy Parker centre.

Yeah, I wasn't sure about the Leverage guys. I see them more as one big family. But Hardison and Eliot definitely have a special bond.

And Tony and McGee eh? Hmm... I've never really seen them like that. Again I see that whole team as a big family. They all definitely share a bond.

Thanks so much for the names.
xx

[mresundance.livejournal.com]

Godric/Eric, True Blood
Holmes/Watson, Sherlock Holmes - take your pick of the version!

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. Holmes and Watson are definitely there (they're on the top of the list!)

Thanks.
xx

[varkelton]

You definitly can't leave Highlander's Duncan and Methos off the list - they are almost as epic as Sam and Dean. Also? Jim/Blair \o/ Lemme know if you want some dark recs, darlin... :)

[varkelton]

Also? Angel/Wes is way above Wes/Gun or Angel/Spike as far as bromance goes... IMHO.

[franzeska]

Well, you wouldn't know it from the fandom, but Crockett and Tubbs on Miami Vice are exactly like that (the show, not so much the movie from what I hear). They're the most stereotypical buddy cops I've ever seen, and they get those ridiculous "I LOVE YOU MAN" scenes all the time whenever someone gets shot or it's a season finale or whatever.

Pretty much all buddy cops would work though.

I agree that Angel and Spike don't really qualify. They both show up on both shows. I think most of the stuff you'd want would be from Angel and not Buffy if you did choose to include them.

[franzeska]

House and Wilson have an Odd Couple sort of thing going on when the show bothers to use Wilson for anything. Personally, I think their relationship is boring and I have no idea what fandom is on about, but people do constantly mention their bromance (including in official publicity stuff).

I second the NCIS:LA thing. The show is clearly going for the classic buddy cop bromance vibe.

If you want something historical, Master and Commander (Aubrey & Maturin), Horatio Hornblower (Horatio & Archie), and Sharpe (Sharpe & Harper) are all long on the epic bromance. Though I should probably warn you up front that the quality on the official Sharpe DVDs is absolute crap.

[feather-touch.livejournal.com]

Two more for you.

Al and Sam from Quantum Leap and there was a show on called Jeremiah that was a post apoc thing (not that I get into or watch that sort of thing...lol) with two guys who were uber buddies, one was Jeremiah, and I can picture the other guy but can't remember his name.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Thanks! I think Killa mentioned Jeremiah as well. (Kurdy was the other guys name).

And you know who no one has mentioned and I forgot also? Bo and Luke Duke. I think they fit the model... :)

Thanks hun.